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Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (July 25-August 1, 2012)
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Originally posted by umichgrad07
True, but I still think that #1 debuts are possible. It just depends on timing of release. Bieber was just unlucky as he was going up against the behemoth WAY (selling 300,000+ per week, over 130m AI, and 1 million OnDemand streams). 521,000 just wasn't enough for that circumstance 
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Yeah, but at the same time, past number one debuts like Britney and Kesha aren't going to be able to push 500,000+ the first week. Gaga can probably pull off a number one debut with her next lead single, but I don't see it being easy. I also have a feeling iTunes banners prevent immediate streaming availability.
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
Yeah, but at the same time, past number one debuts like Britney and Kesha aren't going to be able to push 500,000+ the first week. Gaga can probably pull off a number one debut with her next lead single, but I don't see it being easy. I also have a feeling iTunes banners prevent immediate streaming availability.
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Yeah, vendors are very competitive. Look at what Target is doing to Frank Ocean because of that one week of iTunes exclusivity.
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86. Rita Ora, “How We Do (Party)” (-19)
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
Maybe. However, it is doubtful that artists like Lady Gaga and Britney Spears will get number one hits again. Neither have enough singles longevity to make a climb to the top, nor do they have the crossover appeal to do so.
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Yeah, they're going to struggle a lot more at least. I still think a lot of their fans haven't fully realized this yet. Looking forward to the meltdowns when it happens lol.
That said, I think it's still possible to debut at #1, just the days of doing it on as little as 300,000 sales are over. Now, they'll probably need 450,000 at least to get a #1, and that's on a quiet week. I think Lady Gaga could possibly manage that, but I don't think Britney can. Some of their songs have good longevity though. Last year, all of Lady Gaga's singles peaked first week, but You and I was a grower, and from Britney, Till the World Ends was around for ages.
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Originally posted by Right Direction
86. Rita Ora, “How We Do (Party)” (-19)
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20 25 13 Wanted, Hunter Hayes (68,000)
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I'm sure this has over 600,000 sales now  So proud of him! 
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
Maybe. However, it is doubtful that artists like Lady Gaga and Britney Spears will get number one hits again. Neither have enough singles longevity to make a climb to the top, nor do they have the crossover appeal to do so.
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It's a little crazy to say they'll never get number ones ever again. It's really all about circumstances.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
It's a little crazy to say they'll never get number ones ever again. It's really all about circumstances.
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Exactly. It was said in 2007 that Britney would die with just one #1 hit. She now has 5 
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Originally posted by Tsuko
Yeah, they're going to struggle a lot more at least. I still think a lot of their fans haven't fully realized this yet. Looking forward to the meltdowns when it happens lol.
That said, I think it's still possible to debut at #1, just the days of doing it on as little as 300,000 sales are over. Now, they'll probably need 450,000 at least to get a #1, and that's on a quiet week. I think Lady Gaga could possibly manage that, but I don't think Britney can. Some of their songs have good longevity though. Last year, all of Lady Gaga's singles peaked first week, but You and I was a grower, and from Britney, Till the World Ends was around for ages.
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You and I also had the effect of ending US Top 40's streak of goodwill to her. It also flopped in the UK and most of the rest of the world. So I doubt she will release a song like that again.
Not to mention, it didn't even break the top five, even with a VMA Opening performance.
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damn you katy perry...so far every song that topped the chart has spent more than 1 week except for POM
Hopefully the rest of the #1's this year are multi week
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Originally posted by castrobabytiger
damn you katy perry...so far every song that topped the chart has spent more than 1 week except for POM
Hopefully the rest of the #1's this year are multi week
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I wish Flo Rida can get that #1 for just one week. Damn you Flo 
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
You and I also had the effect of ending US Top 40's streak of goodwill to her. It also flopped in the UK and most of the rest of the world. So I doubt she will release a song like that again.
Not to mention, it didn't even break the top five, even with a VMA Opening performance.
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I also doubt Lady Gaga will ever release a song as risky as You and I again, but I would consider it a success tbh. It did okay on pop, especially considering what it sounds like. I don't think it's killed her career on pop radio, since artists like Rihanna have gotten through much worse in that respect, and still had massive pop hits afterwards.
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
Y&I was a huge success.
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It performed above expectations, but when you look at the peaks in the rest of the world, it's fairly obvious the song wouldn't have done nearly as well in the US if she didn't have VMA hype behind her. Even before the ceremony, MTV had all of those promotional ads in heavy circulation on all of their channels.
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I'm sure this has over 600,000 sales now So proud of him! |
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Originally posted by Tsuko
I also doubt Lady Gaga will ever release a song as risky as You and I again, but I would consider it a success tbh. It did okay on pop, especially considering what it sounds like. I don't think it's killed her career on pop radio, since artists like Rihanna have gotten through much worse in that respect, and still had massive pop hits afterwards.
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I don't think she got into the top ten on overall radio with that song. And it didn't even do well on Adult Contemporary.
Artists like Rihanna don't sabotage themselves. Gaga put out a poll for her fourth single and she chose You and I, which had the least amount of votes because she had performed it during most of her previous tour and all of her fans were basically dog tired of it. Most didn't support the song as a single and some even ditched her for it and the erm... Performance at the VMAs.
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
I don't think she got into the top ten on overall radio with that song. And it didn't even do well on Adult Contemporary.
Artists like Rihanna don't sabotage themselves. Gaga put out a poll for her fourth single and she chose You and I, which had the least amount of votes because she had performed it during most of her previous tour and all of her fans were basically dog tired of it. Most didn't support the song as a single and some even ditched her for it and the erm... Performance at the VMAs.
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Did it seriously come last in the poll? I think the real reason they chose it for a single was just because it had already gone top 10 on iTunes.
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"Call Me Maybe" coming for an 8th week?  I seriously wanted WA to hit #1 for at least a week.  but CMM is inescapable even those olympic athletes performing it. XD
The Billboard Hot 100 is becoming slow again in terms of #1s like it was from 2002-2005.
We Are Young: 6 weeks
Somebody That I Used To Know: 8 weeks
Call Me Maybe: 7 weeks:
Right there 21 weeks these massive hits ruling (Billboard said since 2002 three singles in a row didn't notch 6 weeks at #1 one after another) and only 8 #1s so far if you count "We Found Love". At this rate this decade will have less #1s than 2000's lol
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Fan-chosen singles never go well.
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Originally posted by Tsuko
Did it seriously come last in the poll? I think the real reason they chose it for a single was just because it had already gone top 10 on iTunes.
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It went top ten because it was performed on the Monster Ball so much. But yeah, other than the deluxe-exclusive tracks like Black Jesus and Fashion Of His Love, it was dead last. So the fans didn't support it as a single and lost a lot of trust and respect in her.
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
Fan-chosen singles never go well.
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No, they don't typically. The leaders were Scheisse, Marry The Night, Heavy Metal Lover, and Government Hooker, if I recall.
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