[jose168]

Originally posted by Evangeline

We're talking about success,not your personal preferences.It's 9x Platinum certification,3 #1s from one album in the non-digital era,nearly 20 million WW sales and the Grammy award for it - all disagree bb.

being great has more factors than success

[fabbriche]

Originally posted by DAP

My main gripe is the absence of Celine Dion. The woman clearly was a viable competitor to Mariah Carey, and has made a similar impact on the music industry.

Ikr? Well, probably the younger generation wasn't aware of Celine's impact in the 90's or they totally don't use an artist whose discography is almost entirely ballads which is still considered pop that's why they're quick to dismiss her.

[Blueberry Mary]

WHY IS XTINA, JLO, KATY, ADELE ON THE LIST AND NOT SHAKIRA???

BEYONCE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER THAN XTINA.

WHITNEY AND MARIAH SHOULD HAVE ALSO BEEN A LOT LOWER

[madonnas]

Originally posted by fabbriche

Ikr? Well, probably the younger generation wasn't aware of Celine's impact in the 90's or they totally don't use an artist whose discography is almost entirely ballads which is still considered pop that's why they're quick to dismiss her.

That's not just why we dismiss her.

She's one of the most critically panned Pop artists ever.... I mean her most well known single is known as one of the worst songs of all time by many critics.

[SeanXtina]

Originally posted by jose168

being great has more factors than success

But this thread talks about the greatest woman in pop which means every single woman that is mention on here talks about their success in their careers.

A quality of an album has nothing to do with this because in my opinion many of the girls in the top 15 had terrible albums but sold very well so once again that excuse on Christina is invalid as it has nothing to do with the thread.

[Tropez]

Originally posted by madonnas

Donna Summer

Diana Ross
Janis Joplin
Kate Bush
Gwen Stefani
Aretha Franklin
Missy Elliott
Shania Twain
Shakira
Pat Benetar
Deborah Harry/Blondie
Joni Mitchell
Girls Aloud
Robyn

etc

The list is based on current success. Madonna and Kyle are the only artists before before the 90s that are still making hits.

Diana Ross

She hasn't had a hit since the 80s, just when Madonna came around.

Janis Joplin

Calling Janis pop is an insult, she rock and roll to the blood. Don't call her pop, she's too good for that.

Kate Bush

Never really had the success like the other girls.

Gwen Stefani

You can put her up there, she should be in the top 15
Aretha Franklin

Slap in the face to call her pop, she's the QUEEN of Soul not some popstar, don't insult her like that.

Missy Elliott

Again, she isn't pop she is hip hop

Shania Twain

Sorry to burst your bubble she is a country star

Shakira

Should be on the list no doubt

Pat Benetar

Again with you, she isn't pop Pat is rock, and calling her pop is like calling white black

Deborah Harry/Blondie

Don't ever call her pop she is rock too, and performing at CBGB is hardcore

Joni Mitchell

You love calling rock icons pop don't you?

Girls Aloud

TOO local, outside their regional bubble their unknown.

Robyn

Sorry but she is local too, not much impact.

[hector.adriel]

Originally posted by Pink Panther

WHY IS XTINA, JLO, KATY, ADELE ON THE LIST AND NOT SHAKIRA???

BEYONCE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER THAN XTINA.

WHITNEY AND MARIAH SHOULD HAVE ALSO BEEN A LOT LOWER

I agree on Beyonce being higher than Xtina, but Whitney and Mariah being lower? Sis...

[slw84]

Originally posted by Evangeline

Ch @ people trying to discredit Xtina while her debut album has nearly sold as much as many of their fav's entire discographies.

Haha...good point. Glad my fave isn't included in that list

[madonnas]

Originally posted by CoolestPerson12

The list is based on current success. Madonna and Kyle are the only artists before before the 90s that are still making hits.

Diana Ross

She hasn't had a hit since the 80s, just when Madonna came around.

Janis Joplin

Calling Janis pop is an insult, she rock and roll to the blood. Don't call her pop, she's too good for that.

Kate Bush

Never really had the success like the other girls.

Gwen Stefani

You can put her up there, she should be in the top 15
Aretha Franklin

Slap in the face to call her pop, she's the QUEEN of Soul not some popstar, don't insult her like that.

Missy Elliott

Again, she isn't pop she is hip hop

Shania Twain

Sorry to burst your bubble she is a country star

Shakira

Should be on the list no doubt

Pat Benetar

Again with you, she isn't pop Pat is rock, and calling her pop is like calling white black

Deborah Harry/Blondie

Don't ever call her pop she is rock too, and performing at CBGB is hardcore

Joni Mitchell

You love calling rock icons pop don't you?

Girls Aloud

TOO local, outside their regional bubble their unknown.

Robyn

Sorry but she is local too, not much impact.

is it really based on success? If it is then its even a hotter mess than before.

Also, Pop star = popular music star. All the ladies I listed are pop stars.

That's like saying "Lady Gaga isn't Pop! She's Dance!"

[Kang.]

Guys, this list was compiled by some random person on tumblr. It's not that big of a deal.

Calm down.

[Chickenchiki]

Britney

But where is Cindy and Shakira?

[Mélina]

@ this list.

[slw84]

Originally posted by SeanXtina

You focus too much on Christina negatively considering you're a britney fan so I'm not surprised that you would be biased.

Overall,

Christina deserves her place in pop music either you like it or not.

I agree that she deserves her place in pop music Doesn't take away from the potential she actually had to deserve more success.

[chris1991]

Very Accurate!
Madonna, Britney

Mariah should be lower, Beyonce should be higher. Cher should be way lower.

[DAP]

Originally posted by madonnas

That's not just why we dismiss her.

She's one of the most critically panned Pop artists ever.... I mean her most well known single is known as one of the worst songs of all time by many critics.

Are you oblivious, or what?

[ifyouseekLEM]

Extremely accurate. No debates here.

[Blueberry Mary]

Originally posted by hector.adriel

I agree on Beyonce being higher than Xtina, but Whitney and Mariah being lower? Sis...

Ok, they shouldn't have been a lot lower, maybe just a little lower

[slw84]

Originally posted by DAP

My main gripe is the absence of Celine Dion. The woman clearly was a viable competitor to Mariah Carey, and has made a similar impact on the music industry.

I know. Celine is so underrated.

[ifyouseekLEM]

Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM

Extremely accurate. No debates here.

Christina above Beyonce though....



Christina on the list AT ALL....

[madonnas]

Originally posted by DAP

Are you oblivious, or what?

Okay that was an exaggeration maybe....

but it's not like she has a lot of respect or anything.