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News: Republicans take over Congress.
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Originally posted by KyIe
HHAHAAHHAAHAHHAAH YOU ARE DELUSIONAL. Who the f*ck made the country even worse off in 2010 than it was in 2008? The social issues are coming but it takes time regardless of who's in power. If it did matter who was in power than wouldn't they all have gotten passed by now since its been democratically controlled? Here's a fact for you. The white DEMOCRAT power structure has done ruthless tactics for years to try and gain power. They literally plucked Barack Obama from obscurity into the lime light and ran him for president utilizing his race their main selling point which is just reprehensible. You are so caught up in hating the Republicans that you cannot see the issues within the Democratic party. I am not even a Republican myself I am a Libertarian which has completely different values than both but what I can see from both parties is when they are acting in the interests of increasing their own power and not to help the people.
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Nothing but respect for you
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Originally posted by Ryan
1) I'm all for small government, as long as it's a smart, effective government. In one hand, the GOP can't be for small government and saying they want to respect personal liberty, when they're advocating legislation that has them all up in a woman's uterus and the bedrooms of tax paying Americans. It's contradictory.
2) Smaller government shouldn't mean cutting programs that hard working Americans need to survive the hard times, cutting education, cutting environmental protection, cutting taxes for corporations that ship American jobs overseas, all the while while doubling and tripling military budgets,
3) If trickle down economics is supposed to work as planned, and the free market will sort things out the way it's planned, why are corporations not using all of the gains on Wall Street to hire more workers? Yes, the economy has gotten better, after all, we've had 30+ months of interrupted job growth versus the almost 800K a month we were hemorrhaging, but we should be rebounding stronger.
I don't know about you, but history has shown that when our nation is facing a job crises, we turn to infrastructure programs that not only spurs job growth in the private sector, but also spurs innovation. Yes, the government hiring people to work on our crumbling roads, bridges and outdated power grids, which benefits the private sector because we're buying supplies and staffing from those very companies.
Unfortunately, a lot of governors used money from infrastructure programs to balance their budget, then lambasted the President and Democrats for wasteful spending, when if that money had been used as it was intended, would have led to more jobs and better roads, etc.
4) Yes, Democrats has two years of "complete power" yet had many bills fail even with said "complete power" due to GOP obstruction. You shouldn't need a super majority to get a bill passed in the Senate. Majority should rule. Votes losing 56-44 because they couldn't reach a 60-vote threshold due to grandstanding is ridiculous. Senators supporting a bill, then filibustering their own bill because either the President supported it or because they just didn't want it to go through. Yeah, that was the GOP of 2009-2014.
5) The GOP leaders getting together and vowing to make Obama a one-term president before he even took office? Hmm. Objecting anything he stood for, anything he supported, even when they were Republican ideas first? Refusing to negotiate and compromise, all the while blasting the President for refusing to do so, when in fact he had, many times at the expense of his own party.
GOP voting against jobs bills? Voting against bills for equal pay? Voting against the violence against women act? Voting to repeal "Obamacare" without once putting forth their own plan? Voting to delay mandates of Obamacare, then suing the President when he delayed parts that they wanted via executive order? Voting to ban abortion? Trying to pass personhood bills? What do you call that?
That's not the party of Reagan. That's not the GOP that worked w/ President Clinton on bipartisan bills that fixed a broken welfare system. That's not the GOP looked at bipartisanship as a strength, not a weakness.
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Waiting for his response to this..
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Yeah pretty sure this happens all the time and nothing is gonna change either ways lalalala
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Will this affect Hillary's campaign for 2016?
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Nope.
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Originally posted by CoolestPerson12
The Democrats aren't any better. I'm so annoyed by people thinking any party is better than the other. They are both horrible and are bent on running the country.
We seriously need a new party to shake things up.
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Exactly!
They are both thieves and liars.
I mean some of officials that were working under Bush are still in the White House today.
Like could ya'll be more blind.
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Welp.
Guns for everyone!
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Originally posted by Giliap
Who made it worse in 2010? How about who made America the racist nation of power and greed it was founded as? People who think like you!
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Goodbye. I just can't with this one. Racist? really? Please enlighten me on how racist America is. Oh an how horribly greedy and terrible America is compared to all the other countries where they kill people with different view points or stone women to death for getting raped.
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Originally posted by CoolestPerson12
The Democrats aren't any better. I'm so annoyed by people thinking any party is better than the other. They are both horrible and are bent on running the country.
We seriously need a new party to shake things up.
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http://www.dsausa.org/
vote Bernie Sanders 2016
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Originally posted by KyIe
HHAHAAHHAAHAHHAAH YOU ARE DELUSIONAL. Who the f*ck made the country even worse off in 2010 than it was in 2008? The social issues are coming but it takes time regardless of who's in power. If it did matter who was in power than wouldn't they all have gotten passed by now since its been democratically controlled? Here's a fact for you. The white DEMOCRAT power structure has done ruthless tactics for years to try and gain power. They literally plucked Barack Obama from obscurity into the lime light and ran him for president utilizing his race their main selling point which is just reprehensible. You are so caught up in hating the Republicans that you cannot see the issues within the Democratic party. I am not even a Republican myself I am a Libertarian which has completely different values than both but what I can see from both parties is when they are acting in the interests of increasing their own power and not to help the people.
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Girl bye lets not even go there. Bill Clinton left this country debt free. If it wasn't for REPUBLICAN airhead bush we wouldn't be in this mess. And mess at you trying to degrade Obama's success in cleaning up the mess republicans made. When he's done a better job than any of these republicans like religious nut job mitt Romney could've.
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Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhart...and-investing/
And you can stop with the conspiracy theories and borderline racist remarks regarding about Obama's race. Let's not act like being black is a privilege or advantage when were talking about American
politics. He got there becusse he was TWICE as good as his peers and right for the job.
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Originally posted by KareBear
Republicans are such trash. They don't care about anyone but straight white men.
There goes women's birth rights.
There goes gay rights.
There goes immigration reform.
There goes helping the poor.
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Typical ignorant liberal
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Originally posted by Ari Auris
Nothing but respect for you
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I do my best
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“This whole idea that a good candidate that’s rating well in the polls can’t get in the debate, that’s where the corruption really is,” Paul, the 79-year-old former House of Representatives lawmaker for Texas, told RT during Tuesday’s special midterm elections coverage. “It’s a monopoly…and they don’t even allow a second option,” he said.
“What do they do with our young people? They send them all around the world, getting involved in wars and telling them they have to have democratic elections,” he told RT. “But here at home, we don’t have true Democracy. We have a monopoly of ideas that is controlled by the leaders of two parties. And they call it two parties, but it’s really one philosophy.”
All hope isn’t lost, however; according to Paul, American politics can still be changed if individuals intent on third-party ideas introduce their ethos to the current establishment. Americans can “fight to get rid of the monopoly of Republicans and Democrats,” Paul said, or “try to influence people with ideas and infiltrate both political parties.”
“I think the status quo is pretty strong right now, and I imagine that the status quo is going to win the election tonight,” he said Tuesday afternoon.
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Will this affect Hillary's campaign for 2016?
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She aint winning anyway luv.
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Originally posted by KingSebert
Typical ignorant liberal
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You just said an Italian can't know about America's politics and then you call someone ignorant? BYEEE, get your **** together.
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Will this affect Hillary's campaign for 2016?
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No. As long as Hilary doesn't campaign like she did in 2008, she should be fine.
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Originally posted by Ryan
1) I'm all for small government, as long as it's a smart, effective government. In one hand, the GOP can't be for small government and saying they want to respect personal liberty, when they're advocating legislation that has them all up in a woman's uterus and the bedrooms of tax paying Americans. It's contradictory.
2) Smaller government shouldn't mean cutting programs that hard working Americans need to survive the hard times, cutting education, cutting environmental protection, cutting taxes for corporations that ship American jobs overseas, all the while while doubling and tripling military budgets,
3) If trickle down economics is supposed to work as planned, and the free market will sort things out the way it's planned, why are corporations not using all of the gains on Wall Street to hire more workers? Yes, the economy has gotten better, after all, we've had 30+ months of interrupted job growth versus the almost 800K a month we were hemorrhaging, but we should be rebounding stronger.
I don't know about you, but history has shown that when our nation is facing a job crises, we turn to infrastructure programs that not only spurs job growth in the private sector, but also spurs innovation. Yes, the government hiring people to work on our crumbling roads, bridges and outdated power grids, which benefits the private sector because we're buying supplies and staffing from those very companies.
Unfortunately, a lot of governors used money from infrastructure programs to balance their budget, then lambasted the President and Democrats for wasteful spending, when if that money had been used as it was intended, would have led to more jobs and better roads, etc.
4) Yes, Democrats has two years of "complete power" yet had many bills fail even with said "complete power" due to GOP obstruction. You shouldn't need a super majority to get a bill passed in the Senate. Majority should rule. Votes losing 56-44 because they couldn't reach a 60-vote threshold due to grandstanding is ridiculous. Senators supporting a bill, then filibustering their own bill because either the President supported it or because they just didn't want it to go through. Yeah, that was the GOP of 2009-2014.
5) The GOP leaders getting together and vowing to make Obama a one-term president before he even took office? Hmm. Objecting anything he stood for, anything he supported, even when they were Republican ideas first? Refusing to negotiate and compromise, all the while blasting the President for refusing to do so, when in fact he had, many times at the expense of his own party.
GOP voting against jobs bills? Voting against bills for equal pay? Voting against the violence against women act? Voting to repeal "Obamacare" without once putting forth their own plan? Voting to delay mandates of Obamacare, then suing the President when he delayed parts that they wanted via executive order? Voting to ban abortion? Trying to pass personhood bills? What do you call that?
That's not the party of Reagan. That's not the GOP that worked w/ President Clinton on bipartisan bills that fixed a broken welfare system. That's not the GOP looked at bipartisanship as a strength, not a weakness.
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Wow! This is the best post all night! It was concise, very well-written, and 100% correct. Now that these republicans own both the house and congress, they have literally no excuse as to why bills aren't being passed.
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Originally posted by MP2K
She aint winning anyway luv.
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That's not what I asked
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Originally posted by Mike91
Nope.
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
No. As long as Hilary doesn't campaign like she did in 2008, she should be fine.
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Thanks
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Originally posted by KyIe
Goodbye. I just can't with this one. Racist? really? Please enlighten me on how racist America is. Oh an how horribly greedy and terrible America is compared to all the other countries where they kill people with different view points or stone women to death for getting raped.
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A basic sixth grade history class will tell you all you need to know! But:
Racist? Yes, racist. America was founded on racism (not exclusively of course) and non-white people were not even considered humans. Fast forward to today and the effects after the *cough cough* bandaids *cough cough* I meant "amendments" to the constitution have still trickled down to oppression and discrimination against POC.
Power/Greed. That was the whole point of the expansion of the U.S.! Duh.
Killing people... The U.S. is by far the most insidious of all killer nations... ESPECIALLY when it comes to people with different view points.
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Originally posted by trainsskyscrapers
Wow! This is the best post all night! It was concise, very well-written, and 100% correct. Now that these republicans own both the house and congress, they have literally no excuse as to why bills aren't being passed.
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Please read the constitution. That isn't how it works. The president can veto all bills the Republicans make.
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Checks and Balances I guess. Obama still holds that Veto pen FIRMLY though
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