Album: Lady Gaga - 'Born This Way' (#4) - Page 510

J a y

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Originally posted by KRL

why do you think an iTunes discount would help? it only works when a song is already a big hit and more people download it because they see it's cheap. but the problem with marry the night is that not everyone knows the song because radios don't give it enough support. no matter what the price is, people don't download the song because they don't know of it

I doubt they''d discount on iTunes, tbh.
But as you're saying, it needs to be at least within the top 20 for the discount to have an affect

hausofbryan

Everyone overlooked it, but TOTGA/WFL etc. are all 49 cents as well.

Looks like MTN was just part of a campaign, not like they're going out of their way to reduce its price.

ChrisGagers

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Originally posted by Darren-5-08

SUPPORT THE SONG.

Nicole

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Originally posted by Peep

You flip flop harder than some of these gay **** only for the money stars.

Can ATRL ever say something without reference to gay ****?

Honey Eyes

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Originally posted by Nicole

Katy has a reason to discount and remix: she's trying to break MJ's record, and her song is already a hit with 100M+ AI.

What's the point of Gaga discounting? Forcing a song onto the public that they clearly don't care for? Even if it climbs on BB, so what? Having a "plan" for MTN is pointless. What they need is plan for her whole career.

I think it's just the last chance to get some more sales from it before it dies and starts decreasing. It's clear that it won't got Top 10. The discount is pretty irrelevant but I don't see the problem with it

hausofbryan

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Originally posted by KRL

I'm sure they won't because they probably don't even care about how her singles do which isn't a bad thing because they focus on albums/tours

A pop star is nothing without successful singles. I'm sure they still care.
Especially since she's only been around for 3/4 years, she's not established enough to begin churning out a bunch of flop singles and maintain an interested fan base.

She's far from the ranks of a band like U2.

hausofbryan

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Originally posted by Honey Eyes

I think it's just the last chance to get some more sales from it before it dies and starts decreasing. It's clear that it won't got Top 10. The discount is pretty irrelevant but I don't see the problem with it

I think she just needs a way to jump off of the sinking boat that is MTN. She can throw every tactic she wants out there, but it's not resonating with listeners.

Nicole

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Originally posted by hausofbryan

A pop star is nothing without successful singles. I'm sure they still care.
Especially since she's only been around for 3/4 years, she's not established enough to begin churning out a bunch of flop singles and maintain an interested fan base.

She's far from the ranks of a band like U2.

I'm glad you agree.

hausofbryan

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Originally posted by Nicole

I'm glad you agree.

I really do. I mean, Adele wasn't in the limelight until she had a bunch of huge singles. Now every music-based article mentions her commercial success.

Gaga's antics will become irrelevant if her singles are peaking outside of the Top 40 consistently.

I was hopeful for the song she's "leaking" on Christmas, but from the looks of it, it might be some slow/boring ballad so who knows what she has planned.

J a y

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Originally posted by KRL

I'm sure they won't because they probably don't even care about how her singles do which isn't a bad thing because they focus on albums/tours

Yup.

Alberto

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Originally posted by Nicole

Katy has a reason to discount and remix: she's trying to break MJ's record, and her song is already a hit with 100M+ AI.

What's the point of Gaga discounting? Forcing a song onto the public that they clearly don't care for? Even if it climbs on BB, so what? Having a "plan" for MTN is pointless. What they need is plan for her whole career.

Do you think it's over? Do you think it has any solution? Speaking of MTN, of course. I really want to know, out of the 5 singles until now this has to be the one accompanied with the most frustrating era.

hausofbryan

I don't see how anyone can think MTN isn't over. It's being mauled by radio and lacks any digital power.

Nicole

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Originally posted by hausofbryan

I really do. I mean, Adele wasn't in the limelight until she had a bunch of huge singles. Now every music-based article mentions her commercial success.

Gaga's antics will become irrelevant if her singles are peaking outside of the Top 40 consistently.

I was hopeful for the song she's "leaking" on Christmas, but from the looks of it, it might be some slow/boring ballad so who knows what she has planned.

A hit single is the most important thing for a popstar. Everything else builds on that - album sales, tours, awards. Even the most basic popstars are able to have solid album sales, tour numbers and awards thanks to endless huge hit singles. No one is going to go to a pop concert to sing along to songs they've never heard of. Millions went to the Monster Ball to watch Gaga perform her hot smash hits JD, PF, Paparazzi, BR and sing along at the top of their lungs.

Even touring beasts U2 have the most amazing catalogue of smash hit singles that you still hear everyday on AC and HAC.

Stephen

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Originally posted by hausofbryan

I don't see how anyone can think MTN isn't over. It's being mauled by radio and lacks any digital power.

And if on Christmas day she unveils a RedOne club banger, MTN's grave will be cemented.

Honey Eyes

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Originally posted by hausofbryan

I don't see how anyone can think MTN isn't over. It's being mauled by radio and lacks any digital power.

You know I agree...

HausOfA-M

Successful singles are obviously important for a popstar's carreer. But a 5th single flopping isn't really a big deal.

If she and her label keep on focusing more on album sales, I think this may be the right decision; I don't want her to be only an hit-maker who has to release generic **** after generic **** to get people buy her album massively. The Born This Way era has, at least, proved she can get a Multi-Platinum status even with her biggest hit not being one of the most played songs of the year and not hitting 4M in sales. This was HER era, once she finds, in time, the right balance I think no one will stop her. She doesn't want to fade, she worked so hard for it.

hausofbryan

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Originally posted by Nicole

A hit single is the most important thing for a popstar. Everything else builds on that - album sales, tours, awards. Even the most basic popstars are able to have solid album sales and tour numbers thanks to endless huge hit singles. No one is going to go to a pop concert to sing along to songs they've never heard of. Millions went to the Monster Ball to watch Gaga perform her hot smash hits JD, PF, Paparazzi, BR and sing along at the top of their lungs.

Exactly.

hausofbryan

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Originally posted by HausOfA-M

Successful singles are obviously important for a popstar's carreer. But a 5th single flopping isn't really a big deal.

If she and her label keep on focusing more on album sales, I think this may be the right decision; I don't want her to be only an hit-maker who has to release generic **** after generic **** to get people buy her album massively. The Born This Way era has, at least, proved she can get a Multi-Platinum status even with her biggest hit not being one of the most played songs of the year and not hitting 4M in sales. This was HER era, once she finds, in time, the right balance I think no one will stop her. She doesn't want to fade, she worked so hard for it.

Her multi-platinum status this era is based off of the foundation she built during TFM/TF.

Music like this would've never survived as her debut or something. So much of it was driven by hype.
In addition to that, the promotional efforts have been nonstop the entire year. TFM was able to sell rather decently without such force feeding to the public.

Do I want a flip back to Just Dance? No. But she still needs successful singles.

J a y

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Originally posted by Nicole

A hit single is the most important thing for a popstar. Everything else builds on that - album sales, tours, awards. Even the most basic popstars are able to have solid album sales, tour numbers and awards thanks to endless huge hit singles. No one is going to go to a pop concert to sing along to songs they've never heard of. Millions went to the Monster Ball to watch Gaga perform her hot smash hits JD, PF, Paparazzi, BR and sing along at the top of their lungs.

I don't know why I found this funny

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