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Celeb News: Lady Gaga accused of manipulating 'Born This Way' sales
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Yeah, I don't see what that has to do with my post. I was merely responding to the post where someone asked for proof. You can't provide proof for either situations, so it's pointless to even argue it.
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But without proof, how can you make such accusations then? All it comes off at this point is a bunch of Gaga hate-spout.
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Originally posted by benzene_dream
I do not care if it has been "confirmed" that these sales will count for Soundscan, the point is that so many of you are trying to pre-emptively discredit her sales. Y'all must be worried they're going to be really high, huh? I like her and even I'm not that confident.
It's like when Taylor sold her album for $3.99 on Amazon and the pressed were claiming that's why she crossed a million, when in the end it didn't even account for 10% of her first week sales.
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THIS !
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Originally posted by benzene_dream
I do not care if it has been "confirmed" that these sales will count for Soundscan, the point is that so many of you are trying to pre-emptively discredit her sales. Y'all must be worried they're going to be really high, huh? I like her and even I'm not that confident.
It's like when Taylor sold her album for $3.99 on Amazon and the pressed were claiming that's why she crossed a million, when in the end it didn't even account for 10% of her first week sales.
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Exactly, and make it 4%. She sold 40,000 on Amazon in her first week if I remember correctly.
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Originally posted by benzene_dream
I do not care if it has been "confirmed" that these sales will count for Soundscan, the point is that so many of you are trying to pre-emptively discredit her sales. Y'all must be worried they're going to be really high, huh? I like her and even I'm not that confident.
It's like when Taylor sold her album for $3.99 on Amazon and the pressed were claiming that's why she crossed a million, when in the end it didn't even account for 10% of her first week sales.
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People keep bringing this up. I know I am not worried about her sales. I expect them to be high, and was ready to congratulate her for the hype, hard work, etc. that was put behind the album. So being worried isn't the situation. You're on one side, and that's against those who think this is dirty.
And it's not like Taylor. It's not like any situation where people bought the album because they wanted to. Those arguments were stupid. This however, is a credible argument. She's giving away the album and garnering sales from it.
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Member Since: 9/26/2009
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Originally posted by Common Sense
I wouldn't exactly appreciate it if any of my faves gave away their album for free to people who were interested in mobile phones.
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Originally posted by Delita_chan
But without proof, how can you make such accusations then? All it comes off at this point is a bunch of Gaga hate-spout.
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Payola has always been a talk of high radio spins. It just hasn't started with GaGa.
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Brilliant idea of promoting new material. Other labels should take note, & this is why Interscope handles her career perfectly.
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Member Since: 10/8/2009
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Amazon accounted for only 47k of Taylor's first week sales.  |
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Originally posted by benzene_dream
I do not care if it has been "confirmed" that these sales will count for Soundscan, the point is that so many of you are trying to pre-emptively discredit her sales. Y'all must be worried they're going to be really high, huh? I like her and even I'm not that confident.
It's like when Taylor sold her album for $3.99 on Amazon and the pressed were claiming that's why she crossed a million, when in the end it didn't even account for 10% of her first week sales.
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Well you obviously do care otherwise you wouldn't have said what you did
People are pissed because Gaga stans have the nerve to drag down Britney and Rihanna for doing remixes, then defend this. Which is extremely hypocritical no matter which way you look at it. But hey, thats the way its always been, like when BTW got spammed so it couldn't trend and the monsters got mad, even though they did the exact same thing to Britney. Oh well..
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What makes this promotional strategy divisive is the question of whether or not the giveaway album will be counted towards the album sales.
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
To be honest, I really don't care about the 'manipulation'. I wouldn't care if anyone else did it either.
Fact is, this thread has been split into people who are glad GaGa's team have shown the initiative to make deals like this and people who are simply bummed that their faves didn't think of this idea first...
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I demand a third group for stans who think it is pathetic.
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I will seriously just laugh out loud if Billboard doesn't count this. 
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
People keep bringing this up. I know I am not worried about her sales. I expect them to be high, and was ready to congratulate her for the hype, hard work, etc. that was put behind the album. So being worried isn't the situation. You're on one side, and that's against those who think this is dirty.
And it's not like Taylor. It's not like any situation where people bought the album because they wanted to. Those arguments were stupid. This however, is a credible argument. She's giving away the album and garnering sales from it.
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I think she's saying is that people were claiming that Taylor sold well because of the Amazon discount when in fact, it only sold 47k at Amazon out of 1 million of her sales. So, this could be a case where this phone/album tactic isn't that significant.
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Originally posted by Haus of Wilke$
I demand a third group for stans who think it is pathetic.
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I'm here for that team.
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All this promo is giving me 1999/ early 2000 promo when Britney, Xtina, NSYNC, & the Back street boys where everywhere. I mean i culd not go anywhere without seeing they posters, faces, &names on the walls of restraunts, schools/other establishments 
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I think she's saying is that people were claiming that Taylor sold well because of the Amazon discount when in fact, it only sold 47k at Amazon out of 1 million of her sales. So, this could be a case where this phone/album tactic isn't that significant.
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That is the purpose of the article.
Since the number of smartphones being sold is significant, this promotion might give BTW considerably bloated figures.
The article tells us that this promotion might give Gaga an additional 200k in album sales.
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
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Originally posted by Ømega
All this promo is giving me 1999/ early 2000 promo when Britney, Xtina, NSYNC, & the Back street boys where everywhere. I mean i culd not go anywhere without seeing they posters, faces, &names on the walls of restraunts, schools/other establishments |
Did those artists give away their albums for free though? I didn't think so.
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OMG guyz. I was at teh Best Buy site and the banner after Gaga's reads "free Xbox 360 with qualifying laptops and HDTV's"! Microsoft is manipulating Xbox sales too! SOMEONE ALERT THE AUTHORITIES!
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I think she's saying is that people were claiming that Taylor sold well because of the Amazon discount when in fact, it only sold 47k at Amazon out of 1 million of her sales. So, this could be a case where this phone/album tactic isn't that significant.
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Thank you for explaining what I thought was a fairly straightforward response. My phone battery is dying and I can't respond to everyone. Some people have already convinced themselves that this will definitely give her a significant sales boosts when it's quite possible that it won't.
All I'll say is that Billboard typically does a breakdown of sales by vendor when first week sales are very high. Will this promotional deal add significant numbers like some of you are predicting (perhaps even hoping for)? We shall see. 
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Originally posted by AyuM
Did those artists give away their albums for free though? I didn't think so.
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I know for a fact that either Nsync/ Backstreet Boys did at Burger King, im not gonna try to find the receipts but I clearly remember getting that album through that way.
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