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Originally posted by King Maxx
This was about race. This was about white people not wanting to share in the wealth of this country with minorities. PERIOD. The people who voted for Trump after voting Obama were white people. You didn't have to say it directly. That's what your post was saying.
And didn't Nicki get record turnout in many places. Did she not improve in states like Georgia and Arizona? Did she not lose black voters in a lot of place because of voter suppression? Come on. She was not flawless, but to act like the Democratic party is too blame for white people and their ignorance is quite funny. How else do you get these racists without demeaning minorities and the people who actually need the care? Hillary or any other Democrat could run on single payer (which WILL help these families) and they would get called socialist.
How do you appeal to selfish and/or uneducated people who won't get passed the fact that they don't run the country any longer without compromising your principles and what you know is right? Hillary actually did move to the left to get those very people who cost her the election, and it didn't work. Damn if you do. Damn if you don't.
Say with a straight face that Hillary didn't run on a more progressive platform than Obama. I'll wait.
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1) My post was saying she had to earn the votes of poor minorities, which she failed to do, and the facts back me up:
Wayne County (Detroit), Michigan
- 4th highest poverty right in the state (24%)
- 35% of the county's 18-and-under population lives in poverty
- 52.3% White / 40.5% Black / 2.5% Asian, 0.4% Native American
- Total votes cast down by 37k from 2012
- Dem vote total down by 80k from 2012
Genesee County (Flint), Michigan
- Flint water crisis + 21% of people currently live in poverty
- 74.5% White / 20.7% Black
- Total votes cast down by 5k from 2012
- Dem vote total down by 26k from 2012
106k people who voted for Obama in those two counties simply didn't vote for Clinton, and 42k of those 106k simply didn't vote at all. All in a state lost by 11k or so votes.
There's been extensive pieces written about her (and cowardly Dems as a whole) causing poor black voters to turn off from politics. If she and the Dems won't work to earn those votes, then consider American done as a country. She relied on why Trump was bad for them as opposed to how she could make their lives better and they knew she was a fool like most of her peers in DC who don't work for them, on either side of the aisle.
2) Again, you're diverting. Who said worked for whites? I know you can't answer the question without suggesting someone is saying to work for whites, but this was totally an election that could have been one with the same demographics as 2008+2012.
3) This obviously means there's a bigger, core issue with the Democrats having too long been sat in the center and sitting on their hands when it comes to revolutionary change. "Just enough" wasn't good enough this time around. Tons of establishment Dems probably thought Obama being black was enough to earn them loyalty. The way they misappropriated identity politics and ran with it, ruining it from its original intent, was something to behold. Identity politics is important and amazing - but having a black attorney general means nothing if you don't better people's lives, and the simple action of diversifying roles won't do that. You have to do that
and take action.
Which is the crux of my issue with one specific poster who has suggested, instead of acting on Dems' fears and fighting harder to keep the country okay and then push us back to the left in 2020, the same person in here has literally suggested "Dems need to throw Muslims under the bus" (???) and continues to push out centrist (usually white+male) names out as candidates for 2020 (
).
Poor black people don't deserve to be thrown under the bus (let's be real - they've always been there for Dems and all political parties too) just cause their politics don't align with someone's and this idea of revenge politics by Clinton stans is.. wild.
4) Someone thought to be a wolf in sheep's clothing can't sell anything to sheep, no matter how good it is.
). But, we have seen much darker days. Hell, the entire beginning industrial era was a hell of a lot worse than anything Trump can conjure domestically.
