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ATRL: Is black people praised by media discrimination?
Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Black people are ruling in music right now lol, but it's only the same people each time...the media has tokenized Rihanna, Beyoncé, Drake, Kanye, Jay-Z, Nicki Minaj, The Weeknd, Kendrick...other talented darker skinned black artists (like Ashanti, Kelly Rowland, Azealia) aren't even getting thru the door anymore. sad!
the media runs around praising Beyoncé's music for reflecting the strength of a black woman in America, despite most of Lemonade being written by white men...MTV has made her the face of their "lets demonize white people for being white" narrative (their new year resolutions for white men made sure to praise her), and that's why she was the star of the 2016 VMA ceremony.
there isn't really racism in the music industry, since Beyoncé and Rihanna ruled in 2016, and Beyoncé, Kanye, Rihanna, and Drake are the most nominated at the 2016 Grammys...it's just elitism.
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Member Since: 3/14/2013
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Y'all are so... urgh
Why wouldn't fans and the media bring attention to black artists excelling in an industry where that rarely happens? Mediocre white artists are praised all the time and basically run the industry as far as success goes, so yes it is necessary to bring attention to black artists doing well, especially if those black artists aren't mediocre.
ATRL is guilty of this, y'all will praise a blonde white girl who can barely hold a note and execute an 8 count but will gallop at the opportunity to call a black artist overrated when they rightfully get praise for the fact that can actually sing and dance excellently.
Minorities succeeding in an industry where they are under represented will always receive a tonne of praise. It will happen when Asian artists start dominating, it will happen when LGBT artists start dominating.
Also mess at not wanting to be classified as a "black" anything when you being black will automatically get you thrown into the "urban" categories. Look at how many black artists who make EDM music still get thrown into the R&B and urban categories at award shows. 
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Member Since: 11/14/2011
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Originally posted by Latch
not you quoting lyrics to what is likely the only Prince song you've ever heard in your life as an example of an artist whose art didn't revolve around their sexuality of skin color when, in reality, Prince Rogers Nelson literally spent the majority of his career in music crafting songs about those very things
you'd best stick to your passive aggressive, underhandedly racist comments and Taylor Swift fanaticism because discussing Prince's artistry is clearly not something you have any business doing
know your limits, love
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And you acting like you know s***about Prince, he released more than 30 albums and you think he spent the majority of his career crafting songs about being black? 
Sexuality, yes. But he was straight, he wasn't writing from a minority point of view.
He was a musician, first and foremost .
He wrote about everything, love, women, sex, religion, etc.
But his career wasn't defined by his skin color or sexual orientation.
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Member Since: 12/16/2008
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No but I think some of them are overpraising POC in order to not look racist, which is a very hot topic rn.
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Member Since: 11/14/2011
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Originally posted by Marco_g2
In my experience black people have been successfull in music for, like, forever? So i don't see the need to point it out this year specifically  |
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by lonnie
Point me to one successful dark skinned black woman in pop right now and I will agree with this.
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Girl, pop music is flopping left right and center these days, how am I supposed to answer this ? 
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Ascension
Really not shocked at all to see the first responses... Soooo typical.
Anyway, social position is absolutely relevant and context is important. WHY would somebody write up an article about how great it is to see any area of entertainment dominated by whites when there's never been an issue with white people being shut out and disenfranchised? |
I fail to see how people are struggling to understand this 
Some of you really live inside a bubble I swear
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by FBF
Spotify Top 10 WW :
The Weeknd - Starboy
The Chainsmokers - Closer
Clean Bandit - Rockabye
ZAYN - I Don’t Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker)
Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles
DJ Snake - Let Me Love You
Maroon 5 - Don't Wanna Know
Drake - Fake Love
James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go
Bruno Mars - 24K Magic
US iTunes Top 10 :
The Weeknd - Starboy (feat. Daft Punk)
Bruno Mars - 24K Magic
Pentatonix - Hallelujah
Machine Gun Kelly & Camila Cabello - Bad Things
ZAYN & Taylor Swift - I Don’t Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker)
Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles (feat. Gucci Mane)
Gucci Mane - Both (feat. Drake)
Drake - Fake Love
Hailee Steinfeld & Grey - Starving (feat. Zed)
The point is, black artists being successful is completely normal.
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Bruno Mars isn't black
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Frankievii
Y'all are so... urgh
Why wouldn't fans and the media bring attention to black artists excelling in an industry where that rarely happens? Mediocre white artists are praised all the time and basically run the industry as far as success goes, so yes it is necessary to bring attention to black artists doing well, especially if those black artists aren't mediocre.
ATRL is guilty of this, y'all will praise a blonde white girl who can barely hold a note and execute an 8 count but will gallop at the opportunity to call a black artist overrated when they rightfully get praise for the fact that can actually sing and dance excellently.
Minorities succeeding in an industry where they are under represented will always receive a tonne of praise. It will happen when Asian artists start dominating, it will happen when LGBT artists start dominating.
Also mess at not wanting to be classified as a "black" anything when you being black will automatically get you thrown into the "urban" categories. Look at how many black artists who make EDM music still get thrown into the R&B and urban categories at award shows. |
You're making this into a stan war, it's quite messy. Black artist being successful doesn't rarely happens as well.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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Originally posted by FBF
Spotify Top 10 WW :
The Weeknd - Starboy
The Chainsmokers - Closer
Clean Bandit - Rockabye
ZAYN - I Don’t Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker)
Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles
DJ Snake - Let Me Love You
Maroon 5 - Don't Wanna Know
Drake - Fake Love
James Arthur - Say You Won't Let Go
Bruno Mars - 24K Magic
US iTunes Top 10 :
The Weeknd - Starboy (feat. Daft Punk)
Bruno Mars - 24K Magic
Pentatonix - Hallelujah
Machine Gun Kelly & Camila Cabello - Bad Things
ZAYN & Taylor Swift - I Don’t Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker)
Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles (feat. Gucci Mane)
Gucci Mane - Both (feat. Drake)
Drake - Fake Love
Hailee Steinfeld & Grey - Starving (feat. Zed)
The point is, black artists being successful is completely normal.
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Bruno isn't Black, he's Latino + Asian which might be an even worse position to be in musically. How many huge Asian pop stars have we had in the US?
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Anyways I don't see the issue.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Dark XXX
Bruno Mars isn't black
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Apologies. Is he mixed ?
My point stil stands I think though
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by FBF
Girl, pop music is flopping left right and center these days, how am I supposed to answer this ? |
Are you trolling?
Go back five years from now if you want to and see if you can find an answer, if that doesn't answer to this I don't what will 
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
It's hard to have a discussion when someone is condescending.
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Inherently this topic is condescending to black people and ignores the decades of racial discrimination by the very media the OP is claiming praises exclusively black artists
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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y'all so annoying....what's the issue?
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Member Since: 7/3/2011
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Most media is a direct reflection of what they think the GP wants to watch/hear.
Anyway, I understand what you mean. The headline is just a way for them to get people to click (see above statement). They focus on race because that's what the gp is focusing on now.
Somewhat related, I hate the term "African American". Aren't we all just Americans? I mean, really almost none of our ancestors are native to this country so it seems silly to categorize Americans by ancestral heritage.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by DejaVu
Most media is a direct reflection of what they think the GP wants to watch/hear.
Anyway, I understand what you mean.
Somewhat related, I hate the term "African American". Aren't we all just Americans? I mean, really almost none of our ancestors are native to this country so it seems silly to categorize Americans by ancestral heritage.
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Nobody calls white american "European American"
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
And you acting like you know s***about Prince, he released more than 30 albums and you think he spent the majority of his career crafting songs about being black?
Sexuality, yes. But he was straight, he wasn't writing from a minority point of view.
He was a musician, first and foremost .
He wrote about everything, love, women, sex, religion, etc.
But his career wasn't defined by his skin color or sexual orientation. |
I know plenty about Prince considering I've spent much of my own life listening to his music
I did not say his career was defined by either of those two things,
I said he spent a good chunk of it creating art that related two those facets of his identity
he was a Black artist who made Black music
you being so adamant about having everyone agree with your ridiculously irrational "colorblind" perspective isn't going to change that just because you happen to have him in your avatar
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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They mention it because its much much easier to be successful as a white artist, and everything else in life. So if black artists dominated this year their music was truly extraordinary 
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Member Since: 11/14/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Latch
I know plenty about Prince considering I've spent much of my own life listening to his music
I did not say his career was defined by either of those two things,
I said he spent a good chunk of it creating art that related two those facets of his identity
he was a Black artist who made Black music
you being so adamant about having everyone agree with your ridiculously irrational "colorblind" perspective isn't going to change that just because you happen to have him in your avatar
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You said it and you were wrong.
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,Prince Rogers Nelson literally spent the majority of his career in music crafting songs about those very things
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No.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
As a black man i don't want to be considered as a 'black musician' 'black singer' 'black writer', i would like to be appreciated for who i am. I'm sure my skin doesn't add any value to my art.
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'As a black man'
Ok, sis, sure...
This thread is dumb
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