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Celeb News: Critics slam racist casting of Scarlett Johansson in movie
Member Since: 4/23/2011
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Originally posted by GanjaSebert
So it's not racist when a black actress plays Annie or a black actor plays Johnny Storm who are both clearly white in the play and comics? Please.
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Someone already tried this on a previous page. Annie is based on a poem about a poor girl named Annie. As for the Human Torch, you'll have to ask the studio. They obviously wanted to get a black audience to watch the movie too or push Michael B. Jordan.
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by GanjaSebert
So it's not racist when a black actress plays Annie or a black actor plays Johnny Storm who are both clearly white in the play and comics? Please.
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Someone is bothered by reinterpretations. There's nothing racist about having white characters being portrayed by minorities after having been represented by white faces predominately. It's all about being current.
The producers of both movies were confident in the actors. Not their problem they happen to be black and that's more accessible than Asians in entertainment.
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Member Since: 2/4/2014
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Originally posted by qurl
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the original comment mentioning Avatar was in reference to The Last Airbender film, there is nothing racist or wrong with the James Cameron Avatar when white people are the bad guys in that movie, Zoe Saldana is the lead actress depicting a character of a foreign descent and the the ethnic characters in the film are purported as the good guys.
god some of ya'll are so daft, it's maddening, couldn't even find a ****ing Blues clue dude 
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That's exactly my point. That's the movie people were talking about, but you confused it with the Jamed Cameron movie so you weren't talking about the right movie, but then you're accusing me of doing that.
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Originally posted by qurl
omg OMG omg I'm so stupid for the Avatar one okay guys sorry let's pretend that didn't happen (but also yall could make a clearer distinction, j don't watch blatant flop films so I never saw Avatar, the show slays tho!)
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Goosey
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Looks Asian to me.
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Member Since: 10/15/2011
Posts: 6,480
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It's not as much racist as it is disappointing to me. There are so few roles for Asian actors already that when a clear opportunity arises it just sucks that no one is willing to take a "risk" and cast an Asian actor that will inevitably be a lesser known or unknown name. There may be valid reasons to cast an actor of a different race, but there will never be any change if those reasons keep being used over and over again.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 3,391
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Originally posted by Priyanka Chopra
Wrong. She's a human with cyborg parts. And Japan is one of the most homogenous countries in the world where it's hard for foreigners to become citizens. 
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So? There are minorities with japanese citizenship, that were born and raised and Japan and they shouldn´t be denied of representation just because 99% of their country is "homogenous".
Anyway, she was casted for pure business reasons, of course. She has the star power to justify the expensiveness.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 20,050
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Originally posted by QueenBLadyG
Someone is bothered by reinterpretations. There's nothing racist about having white characters being portrayed by minorities after having been represented by white faces predominately. It's all about being current.
The producers of both movies were confident in the actors. Not their problem they happen to be black and that's more accessible than Asians in entertainment.
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Originally posted by Inverted
Someone already tried this on a previous page. Annie is based on a poem about a poor girl named Annie. As for the Human Torch, you'll have to ask the studio. They obviously wanted to get a black audience to watch the movie too or push Michael B. Jordan.
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So if a black actress, say Lupita Nyong'o, played this part it should be fine?
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Member Since: 2/4/2014
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Originally posted by Melquiades
So? There are minorities with japanese citizenship, that were born and raised and Japan and they shouldn´t be denied of representation just because 99% of their country is "homogenous".
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Now you're just reaching. If a country is homogenous, the vast majority will be natives and the character's name makes it obvious that she is native. Stop pretending you're concerned about the representation of some made up Japanese minority that supposedly looks like Scarlett Johansson. 
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Member Since: 4/23/2011
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Originally posted by GanjaSebert
So if a black actress, say Lupita Nyong'o, played this part it should be fine?
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Considering that the character is an ethnic Japanese national, I wouldn't think so.
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by GanjaSebert
So if a black actress, say Lupita Nyong'o, played this part it should be fine?
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You're allowing your hurt feelings to cloud your common sense. This is the first live adaptation of this anime. That would literally make NO sense. If this was let's say 2100 and it has three different adaptations, that argument you're trying may hold weight.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Priyanka Chopra
That's exactly my point. That's the movie people were talking about, but you confused it with the Jamed Cameron movie so you weren't talking about the right movie, but then you're accusing me of doing that. 
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lmao no, the point is that you've spent the entire last 3 pages arguing for the racism in Avatar instead of The Last Airbender (the correctly racist, wrongly labeled film we were talking about)
nice try tho! I admitted several pages back when I realized I was discussing the wrong film and deleted my post arguing for it
you probably couldn't do that tho because it would delete most of your presence from your own thread, poor you for missing out 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Y'all REALLY think they're going to have her playing a Japanese woman? Hollywood isn't that stupid. They'll keep the same premise, but it'll take place in the USA and her named won't be M. Kusanagi.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by qurl
lmao no, the point is that you've spent the entire last 3 pages arguing for the racism in Avatar instead of The Last Airbender (the correctly racist, wrongly labeled film we were talking about)
nice try tho! I admitted several pages back when I realized I was discussing the wrong film and deleted my post arguing for it
you probably couldn't do that tho because it would delete most of your presence from your own thread, poor you for missing out 
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Both films were being discussed on the previous pages at different instances.
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Member Since: 2/4/2014
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Originally posted by qurl
lmao no, the point is that you've spent the entire last 3 pages arguing for the racism in Avatar instead of The Last Airbender (the correctly racist, wrongly labeled film we were talking about)
nice try tho! I admitted several pages back when I realized I was discussing the wrong film and deleted my post arguing for it
you probably couldn't do that tho because it would delete most of your presence from your own thread, poor you for missing out 
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Um... I never even commented on either Avatar movie.
The other member and I were talking about movies not lead by big names and I used the original Twilight and The Hunger Names as examples because he said he would never watch movies lead by unknowns. Now log out. 
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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"People won't go see a movie with Asian actors because they aren't well known and its a business...... so lets continue to never give Asians or POC roles (whitewashing movies) so that they continue to be unknown and be ignored for roles"
Perfect logic ATRL I see nothing wrong with this 
Clearly POC need to work harder to get roles that will be offered to white people anyway because they're more marketable. Glad all you white privileged boys understand the struggle 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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they're likely not even gonna set the damn city the movie depicts in Japan and yall are screaming 'A JAPANESE ACTRESS NEEDS TO PLAY A JAPANESE CHARACTER IN A JAPANESE MOVIE BASED IN JAPAN'
fret not, they will Americanize the **** out of the film to the point that most of you won't even recognize it / won't be interested, good news for ya'll so ya don't have to go see it! one less idiot in the theatre = more of a chance I can put my feet up
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Both films were being discussed on the previous pages at different instances.
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yes, but what i'm saying is that James Cameron's Avatar was never even meant to be discussed, it was wrongly called Avatar when the person meant The Last Airbender. No one is actually arguing about racism in Avatar (you're kinda foolish if you do) but..
you know what nevermind, i'm just gonna let ya'll have this thread. you win! racisme racisme racisme, ect
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Member Since: 3/19/2012
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Looks Asian to me.
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Because it's an Asian animation style. Now go look at some Caucasian characters in anime, they look the same.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Goosey
Because it's an Asian animation style. Now go look at some Caucasian characters in anime, they look the same.
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So are you saying all ethnicites look the same regardless of race b/c of the style?
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Member Since: 3/3/2012
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Originally posted by Rihbeyga
+ let's not act as if anime and such isn't very Eurocentric. Unless you are saying Japanese people look white. Hai bo
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Manga and anime always has Japan as the main location unless stated otherwise and how do you want the characters to look like so you can say "Oh yeah they are japanese"?
With squinty eyes, black hair, yellow skin and a conical hat?
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