[Alvajay]

it's about to get m e s s y in here

[Vespertine]

Originally posted by Get $leazy

On the other hand, I believe God wants us to follow our hearts and do what makes us happy, in a transgender's case, that means changing one's gender.

A lesson for ATRL:

sex = biological
gender = personal identification / where you fit in with socially constructed roles for each sex

Transgender people don't want to "change their gender;" rather they feel that they are the wrong biological sex, and generally want that to match the gender they are. It's a distinction that more people (especially gay/bi people who are often transphobic still) need to better understand.



Personally, I feel that everyone has that right to feel comfortable in their body, and if someone knows in their heart they they were born the wrong sex, they have every right to address that. That being said, I'll admit that I'm largely clueless on transgender issues/don't have any personal experience/don't know how readily I would date a transgender individual or how I would deal with any issues that might come up. But as a member of the LGBT community (where the T is often ignored), I definitely want to learn more and become totally comfortable with it, because no one deserves to be excluded.

[controversy]

Originally posted by Get $leazy

I never said they were wrong. I was opening a discussion by asking questions.

not you specifically sis, just the general "you" of society.

[feuxtography]

Originally posted by Eternium

I've never liked that people get plastic surgery for non-medical reasons and kind of have the opinion that people should love how they were born, but at the end of the day it isn't my decision and as long as nobody is harming themselves/others, then I don't see a reason to be actively against it.

A sex change, in a lot of places, is a medical reason.

Also, you can't love the way you were born if your brain is telling you that you're born incorrectly.

[Belle]

God is a social construct, so I'm not sure why you keep referencing it.

[Dragana]

Originally posted by Vespertine

A lesson for ATRL:

sex = biological
gender = personal identification / where you fit in with socially constructed roles for each sex

Transgender people don't want to "change their gender;" rather they feel that they are the wrong biological sex, and generally want that to match the gender they are. It's a distinction that more people (especially gay/bi people who are often transphobic still) need to better understand.



Personally, I feel that everyone has that right to feel comfortable in their body, and if someone knows in their heart they they were born the wrong sex, they have every right to address that. That being said, I'll admit that I'm largely clueless on transgender issues/don't have any personal experience/don't know how readily I would date a transgender individual or how I would deal with any issues that might come up. But as a member of the LGBT community (where the T is often ignored), I definitely want to learn more and become totally comfortable with it, because no one deserves to be excluded.

If you were born with a penis, you're a guy. If you were born with a snatch, you're a niece.

[I Am Music]

Why was this reported? god damn this thread was going smoothly some of you suck.

[RatedG²]

I feel like they all have mental disorders but whatever

[feuxtography]

Originally posted by Belle

God is a social construct.

Correct. Which is why it should never be brought up on topics about biology.

Luckily, it hasn't been mentioned yet.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by ☈ogue

I think Lil Kim looked fine the way she did. I don't know why she had to get the surgery done.



But imma let her do ha thang.

This is why ATRL can't have serious discussions.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by I Am Music

@ this thread going smoothly.

Am in shock. Yas.

[Belle]

Originally posted by feuxtography

Correct. Which is why it should never be brought up on topics about biology.

Luckily, it hasn't been mentioned yet.

Actually, in the very first post of this thread...

[Sinister]

some ppl bleach their skins... some ppl get breast implants... some ppl get plastic surgery

do want you want if you really want to... doesn't affect me

[feuxtography]

Originally posted by RatedG²

I feel like they all have mental disorders but whatever

Plenty of people believe gay people have mental disorders.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

Am in shock. Yas.

[cjoclcjacja]

Why change what god already gave you? why alter his image of you? He did not die for us to be destroying what he wanted us to be

[Androgyne]

Originally posted by feuxtography

A sex change, in a lot of places, is a medical reason.

Also, you can't love the way you were born if your brain is telling you that you're born incorrectly.

also not every trans person undergoes cosmetic surgery or SRS. Look at B. Scott
transgender is just an umbrella term. I also noticed the OP only represented trans people
who undergo surgery

[Ichinaru19]

Honestly discussions like this should never be banned in the first place. Its going smoothly right now as it should be. After all, a good portion of ATRL consists of gays which should mean that we are more understanding of this kind of situation. LGBT

[Belle]

Originally posted by RatedG²

I feel like they all have mental disorders but whatever

With a signature that shows a clear ability to either have abstract thought or at least copy and paste it, I'm not sure why you'd think that way.

[heartbeats]

it shouldn't concern us because it's their life and they're not harming anyone/ and if it makes them happy then so be it . if it makes you more happy and you want to be a woman then do it. if you feel more happy and you want to be a guy then do it.