[RatedG²]

Originally posted by FelixMonster

well who tf does?

Well...

[Remixed]

mods re-open my thread with tha source

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[Space Renegade]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Well...

idgi?

[Remixed]

FelixMonster
Banned

welp

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by orange

No, it just means that people don't really know what constitutes as behavior that gets them warned. There are SO many reports on people not liking someone's opinion and calling that flamebait, when it's just a damn opinion. So, it's not that people have a problem with this specifically, people just like to complain about anything that doesn't work their way.

Well, I can't say that I blame people for not knowing it's warnable when there are so many instances of it happening and not being warned.

Unnecessary reports are a separate issue from unnecessary warnings. In this case people would only report smilie/.gif-only posts because they happen to know it's warnable and they want to exploit the system to get somebody they dislike unnecessary points.

Originally posted by orange

Actually, that's pretty pointless too.

I am reading the page, why are you quoting something when you're not adding something substantial?

I agree. That's why I said I find that kind of stuff a lot more irksome and closer to being pointless in its redundancy (although even then it doesn't really meet the definition of pointless cuz it's still self-expression), but that's never going to be warnable.

My argument is that you'd be hard-pressed to call smilie/.gif-only posts as "pointless" under the rationale they don't really add anything to the discussion while tolerating all sorts of text posts that contain even less substance and tend to be more redundant, if anything.

You can get a message across with just a smilie or a .gif, and often it can be funnier than something that's written out.

[Glam]

Originally posted by Remixed

FelixMonster
Banned

welp

Not our good sister trying to build ha case and pleading guilty right before getting punched out. I wonder what was the last straw

[Gui Blackout]

Originally posted by FelixMonster

im so close its not even funny.

i hate being banned but i love shade

Originally posted by Remixed

FelixMonster
Banned

welp

[KyKy]

Excuse me mods, if members were talking about me in their base thread is that a reportable post? Would it be off topic.. or ?

[orange]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Well, I can't say that I blame people for not knowing it's warnable when there are so many instances of it happening and not being warned.

Unnecessary reports are a separate issue from unnecessary warnings. In this case people would only report smilie/.gif-only posts because they happen to know it's warnable and they want to exploit the system to get somebody they dislike unnecessary points.



I agree. That's why I said I find that kind of stuff a lot more irksome and closer to being pointless in its redundancy (although even then it doesn't really meet the definition of pointless cuz it's still self-expression), but that's never going to be warnable.

My argument is that you'd be hard-pressed to call smilie/.gif-only posts as "pointless" under the rationale they don't really add anything to the discussion while tolerating all sorts of text posts that contain even less substance and tend to be more redundant, if anything.

You can get a message across with just a smilie or a .gif, and often it can be funnier than something that's written out.

When I agreed that it is pointless, I was saying that stuff like that also gets warned for "Pointless" when reported. Granted, I am not going around looking for every single instance of "Pointless" but when something is reported, and it is pointless, it gets warned.

Also, my post about people complaining is not just about "pointless" but rather most posts that get warned tend to get people arguing, when it's explicitly stated. Flamebait = instigating an argument or stan-war, or anything that could be taken as such. Pointless = you are not adding anything to the conversation. There is an ATRL Warnings page that should give enough guideline and yet people are always still surprised. I'm sorry, I know people can read and understand things, so I don't expect anything less.

[YSL]

Originally posted by KyKy

Excuse me mods, if members were talking about me in their base thread is that a reportable post? Would it be off topic.. or ?

Not a mod, but yes. I've gotten people that way before.

[Halien4Life]

Originally posted by FelixMonster

im so close its not even funny.

i hate being banned but i love shade

OMG

[Sinister]

more banned members

You know with all these Septmenber bans...October will be chaos when they all return

[i spit on haters]

Members were discussing me (in a negative manner) in the "artist" base thread. The posts were reported and that member better collect his points for off topic.

But now that I know it upsets them so much, I will continue to go in on their fave via SYG. I'll be extra harsh from here on out with my posts. I've only just begun.

[YSL]

Originally posted by Remixed

mods re-open my thread with tha source

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[Halien4Life]

Originally posted by Jack.

The Army's sarcasm in this thread is too much.

Predictable & repetitive.

I booked that for future use, it'll come in handy in a couple of weeks.

[Ainsworth]

The Army is so angry these days. Why?

[YSL]

Originally posted by Ainsworth

The Army is so angry these days. Why?

Insecurity.

[Last Boy on Earth]

I don't know how to feel about this, he can be very annoying but some times he is very cool too, r.i.p anyways

[Kings.]

how long does it usually take for a member to get approved, my friend is waiting to join

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by orange

When I agreed that it is pointless, I was saying that stuff like that also gets warned for "Pointless" when reported. Granted, I am not going around looking for every single instance of "Pointless" but when something is reported, and it is pointless, it gets warned.

So how many warnings would you hand out in a thread like this for example?

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Damn gurl, damn!

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Queen of Australia

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WOW congrats !!

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Already?

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queen of australia

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Queen of Australia

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This is pretty much par for course for any of those threads in the Charts section, and not any of those posts are warned (with good reason - that would be ridiculous). So yeah, if I saw those posts go unwarned routinely and one of my posts that was in a similar vein got warned then I would be miffed as well due to the alarming inconsistency of its application.

And I've not really heard any other mods refer short or single-word posts (e.g., "lol," "omg, "wow, etc.) as being warn-worthy. Is that a sentiment shared by all the mods or something to which you subscribe?

Originally posted by orange

Also, my post about people complaining is not just about "pointless" but rather most posts that get warned tend to get people arguing, when it's explicitly stated. Flamebait = instigating an argument or stan-war, or anything that could be taken as such. Pointless = you are not adding anything to the conversation. There is an ATRL Warnings page that should give enough guideline and yet people are always still surprised. I'm sorry, I know people can read and understand things, so I don't expect anything less.

I understand that some people do complain about every little thing, even in instances where they were warned for blatantly trolling and they knew it, but there is a bit of a debatable gray area on some warnings (such as flamebait) where I don't blame posters for wanting to discuss it in here.

Some of the mods seem to have a different understanding of what constitutes "flamebait" as opposed to others. That's understandable to a degree because the mods are individual people all with their own judgment, but I feel like it's getting a bit ridiculous in some instances where posts are getting warned that are less provocative than things posted by moderators themselves on a regular basis in the past.

This was one post of mine that was warned for "flamebait" even though the purpose was to pursue a line of discussion rather than instigate a mindless flame war:

http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.ph...86815#10086815

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Oh so you really think any bubblegum pop album is capable of selling 10m copies in the digital age? That's the whole point. Obviously not peaking in the digital era hurt her single sales by comparison, but if she had peaked later then she would have been subject to the same market constraints of piracy and there is no way she would have ever seen those album sales.

That is substantive charts discussion made in the charts section and it was on-topic with what was already being discussed. You talked before about it being annoying when posters report things that they just disagree with expecting it to be warned, and yet this was not a heated post made with the attempt to instigate a flame war, it was a post that some stan didn't like, and yet it was warned as "flamebait" as if it had said "Britney's sales are pathetic tbh."

Like I said, I realize the mods are going to be using individual discretion, but these things are frustrating and the process should be a bit more objective than having the likelihood of whether you'll be warned for a post or not differ drastically depending on which mod is first to process the report.