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Discussion: Why did the Oscars fail to acknowlge all minorities?
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Why did the Oscars fail to acknowlge all minorities?
This could've been a great statement from them following the big controversy since the nominations were announced and honestly I never agreed it was the oscars fault since it all goes back to movie studios not giving us minorities better and bigger opprtunies/roles but they decided to kinda address this controversy. They made fun of themselves and agreed about the lack of diversity in the nominations BUT they failed to acknowled all of us. All of the minorities who are snubbed/not given opportunities to show what we can do.
It was all about African Americans it just felt a bit of a let down they decided to adress this controversy but failed to recognize all
Of us. Now don't be like this poster below who sounded ignorant/hypocritical replying to my post In the oscars thread
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Originally posted by Chimier
Black people aren't the mule of all minorities. They all have a voice, so they should use it. It is not our responsibility to speak up for everyone else, especially since they wouldn't and don't speak up for us. Thanks.
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This person wanting "equality" sounds really hypocritical since he wants diversity but as long as he is acknowledges he's ok. Screw the others...
This wasn't about certain race speaking for other ones it's about the oscars failing to acknowledge all Of us... African Americans, Latinos, Asians and especially native Americans. But they didn't why? It feels like such a let down I'm happy they addressed it but they could've done a better job to include all of us.
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You can call it hypocrisy but they have a point, at the end of the day all minorities could do a little gathering and actually work together.
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Originally posted by I Am Music
You can call it hypocrisy but they have a point, at the end of the day all minorities could do a little gathering and actually work together.
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This was about the OSCARS acknowledging this issue but didn't mention all us..... Not other minorities speaking out for other minorities white people were the ones on charge but failed to recognize or mention all of us. And us Latinos are not even the ones who have it worse I was watching with my African American friend and she mentioned something I haven't even thought about : native Americans have it way worse than all of us they are hardly ever mentioned or recognized.
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When have racial minorities ever really come together though? Just because we all experience racism doesn't mean that our experiences are the same or that we even get along. Other minority groups have voices and they can use them if they want, but it's not the job of black people to speak up for Asians, Latinos, or Native Americans.
Edit - The President of the Academy spoke about diversity in general, so I'm assuming she didn't just mean blacks. As far as the writers for the Oscars, maybe Chris Rock had a lot of creative control and narrowed the focus? Idk.
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Only one of us went through slavery, that's why. But yes really all minorities need to come together, with the latinos struggling with documentation and the muslims with all their mess we all need to rally together
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Member Since: 11/18/2008
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Originally posted by Circinus
When have racial minorities ever really come together though? Just because we all experience racism doesn't mean that our experiences are the same or that we even get along. Other minority groups have voices and they can use them if they want, but it's not the job of black people to speak up for Asians, Latinos, or Native Americans.
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you're missing the point this is an event organized by white people not African Americans white people who organize the oscars decided it was a good idea and it was im glad they did but they didn't do anything to mention or try to mention all the other minorities. This is not about black people speaking for other minorities don't be so selfish.
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If they wanted to speak on social injustices they face they could and should, they have the same platforms and opportunities that we have. It's not our job to do so.
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Originally posted by Circinus
When have racial minorities ever really come together though? Just because we all experience racism doesn't mean that our experiences are the same or that we even get along. Other minority groups have voices and they can use them if they want, but it's not the job of black people to speak up for Asians, Latinos, or Native Americans.
Edit - The President of the Academy spoke about diversity in general, so I'm assuming she didn't just mean blacks. As far as the writers for the Oscars, maybe Chris Rock had a lot of creative control and narrowed the focus? Idk.
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If black people are only speaking up for black people then they're not really fighting for racial equality, they're fighting for black rights, to make their own lives easier.
As for the Oscars, I think they only talked about black people since the other races didn't make as much of a fuss about it.
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Idk, but this is getting tiring. I don't need an Oscar award to tell me that my people are good actors. They are. I don't need a Grammy to tell me that my people are good singers. They are. I don't need the media to tell me that I'm beautiful or that my race is beautiful. I already know that & there's not a damn thing they can do about it to take it away. Now I'm sorry if this doesn't fit in with your thread, but I'm worried that people are seeking validation too much. Soon, are you going to be asking for them to acknowledge every single race there ever was? At some point, or some place, you're going to have to realize that the Oscars is not in control and does not get the final say over who was and wasn't worthy. We really all are and it doesn't have to be a contest or a game, either. If they can't see that, then screw 'em.
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
If they wanted to speak on social injustices they face they could and should, they have the same platforms and opportunities that we have. It's not our job to do so.
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Lmfao see this why I don't believe some of y'all want equality I have NEVER said African Americans need to speak up for others that's not in the op nor do I think y'all should. Because y'all shouldn't I'm calling out the oscars, people who organize this awards that decided to adress the issue but made it all about African Americans and didn't acknowledged all of us... No one ever said it was African Americans fault but comments like yours and the one I included in the op make it seem like y'all don't care about diversity/equality which was the reason why they even addressed it this year.
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Because, America only sees two colors.
Where my Asians, Latino's, Albion's at?
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The way Chris played with this "issue" at the Oscars was great for the most part. In the end, The Academy doesn't owe anyone anything. Work hard and you'll get nominated.
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Originally posted by St. Charles
Idk, but this is getting tiring. I don't need an Oscar award to tell me that my people are good actors. They are. I don't need a Grammy to tell me that my people are good singers. They are. I don't need the media to tell me that I'm beautiful or that my race is beautiful. I already know that & there's not a damn thing they can do about it to take it away. Now I'm sorry if this doesn't fit in with your thread, but I'm worried that people are seeking validation too much. Soon, are you going to be asking for them to acknowledge every single race there ever was? At some point, or some place, you're going to have to realize that the Oscars is not in control and does not get the final say over who was and wasn't worthy. We really all are and it doesn't have to be a contest or a game, either. If they can't see that, then screw 'em.
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Everything should have as much genuine diversity and credibility as possible but I do see where you're coming from. I agree.
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Originally posted by St. Charles
Idk, but this is getting tiring. I don't need an Oscar award to tell me that my people are good actors. They are. I don't need a Grammy to tell me that my people are good singers. They are. I don't need the media to tell me that I'm beautiful or that my race is beautiful. I already know that & there's not a damn thing they can do about it to take it away. Now I'm sorry if this doesn't fit in with your thread, but I'm worried that people are seeking validation too much. Soon, are you going to be asking for them to acknowledge every single race there ever was? At some point, or some place, you're going to have to realize that the Oscars is not in control and does not get the final say over who was and wasn't worthy. We really all are and it doesn't have to be a contest or a game, either. If they can't see that, then screw 'em.
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Of course I agree with you sis and the issues wasn't even the oscars it goes further than that it's the Movie industry not giving minorities bigger opportunies.. I only made this thread cuz they decided to address controversy but didn't acknlowldge all
Of us.
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Originally posted by Superbitch
Lmfao see this why I don't believe some of y'all want equality I have NEVER said African Americans need to speak up for others that's not in the op nor do I think y'all should. Because y'all shouldn't I'm calling out the oscars, people who organize this awards that decided to adress the issue but made it all about African Americans and didn't acknowledged all of us... No one ever said it was African Americans fault but comments like yours and the one I included in the op make it seem like y'all don't care about diversity/equality which was the reason why they even addressed it this year.
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As I've said before if other minorities wanted to speak up about the social injustices they face they could. Out of all minorities Blacks have it the worse.
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Originally posted by Eric.
The way Chris played with this "issue" at the Oscars was great for the most part. In the end, The Academy doesn't anyone anything. Work hard and you'll get nominated.
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It's not about owing anyone anything, tons of people work hard and don't receive the fruits of their labor.
Tons of talent goes unnoticed despite perfecting their craft.
This bootstraps mentality just isn't realistic.
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
If they wanted to speak on social injustices they face they could and should, they have the same platforms and opportunities that we have. It's not our job to do so.
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its not your job buts it ETHICAL to help your fellow brethen is it not? or are you only interested in advancing yourself? then that's just being a) selfish & b) segregating yourself from the rest. you guys have fun helping each other out!!
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
As I've said before if other minorities wanted to speak up about the social injustices they face they could. Out of all minorities Blacks have it the worse.
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no they don't.
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
As I've said before if other minorities wanted to speak up about the social injustices they face they could. Out of all minorities Blacks have it the worse .
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That's such a bold statement. Too much.
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
As I've said before if other minorities wanted to speak up about the social injustices they face they could. Out of all minorities Blacks have it the worse.
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It's not a competition to see who struggles the most wow you really sound a bit hypocritical sis. No one is competing to struggle more... No one is blaming African Americans, no one is asking you to speak for anyone else the oscar organizers(white people) organized it but did not make the effort to acknowledge everyone... No one has blamed African Americans sis lol hell I was watching the awards with my bff and she is African American and we had this discussion while watching the show.
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