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Discussion: Why do people want TF Gaga back so badly?
Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by MrFenty
Because the music was better and she wasn't so serious.
Nobody likes a musical artist who takes their music so seriously to the point where every step they make has some deeper artistic meaning that nobody can understand unless explained to them. That's not art, that's just obnoxious.
oh and the fashion was much better. and the videos.
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Oh and this. 
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by MrFenty
Because the music was better and she wasn't so serious.
Nobody likes a musical artist who takes their music so seriously to the point where every step they make has some deeper artistic meaning that nobody can understand unless explained to them. That's not art, that's just obnoxious.
oh and the fashion was much better. and the videos.
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Agreed 
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Member Since: 6/10/2010
Posts: 18,057
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Originally posted by Damien M
It sounds ridiculous now, but it The Fame was relatable.
Everyone has sex, goes to clubs, goes through break ups and obsesses over relationships and money.
On the other hand,not everyone is an insecure 'Bad Kid' who needs self assuring messages from popstars, or has a Judas in their lives.
See the disconnect?
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Everyone has a "Judas" or something that haunts them in their life. They already have a million in one popstars who had and still do sing about that stuff so openly. I don't see why the The Fame Gaga aka "another blond popstar" was any different. So wouldn't people want someone different than that? And there is nothing wrong with singing about things with a message and inspiring people. That's what music is for and i'm assuming what every artist strives for. I just don't get the fascination with TF Gaga.
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
Posts: 15,569
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Originally posted by BadBitch
Everyone has a "Judas" or something that haunts them in their life. They already have a million in one popstars who had and still do sing about that stuff so openly. I don't see why the The Fame Gaga aka "another blond popstar" was any different. So wouldn't people want someone different than that? And there is nothing wrong with singing about things with a message and inspiring people. That's what music is for and i'm assuming what every artist strives for. I just don't get the fascination with TF Gaga.
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The singles were very successful on the charts, US and WW. That's all it comes down to.
BTW saw her taking a massive hit to her charting popularity. Touringwise, she's way more massive than her contemporaries could ever be.
Also, Bad Romance was blocked from number one by a pop song that's as mindless as you can get. So there's that degree of success that comes with putting out a song like that, that you won't get with an outsiders' anthem.
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Member Since: 6/10/2010
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Originally posted by MovinKindaSlow
Are you saying being materialistic isn't relatable?
It's not the fact she was singing about those things but the fact she debuted with such a shameless image. She exploded onto the pop scene proclaiming herself as a Fame junky who loved everything about that lifestyle and she didn't care what people thought about it. That, to me was admirable that a young girl would be so be sure of herself and her image. She didn't let people's opinions sway her love of the fame and fortune that comes with it.
Then it all changed 
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I mean that's nice and all but isn't it a problem when you need fame and fortune to feel good about yourself? I would rather have songs like TEOG singing about my last moments with someone close to me rather then "hey i just met you let me ride your disco stick".
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Member Since: 10/30/2010
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She was successful and "everyone" liked her. That's why they want her back.
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Member Since: 9/1/2011
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Meh, I always want Gaga to continue moving forward. I thought most of TF era were cute pop songs with a slightly different twist to it. I never thought Just Dance, Poker Face or Love Game were all that spectacular compared to other pop songs. I thought for the most part her songs were typical pop with a slight twist. Papparazi VMA performance was the first genuinely interesting thing she did for me. I went back and watched other performances and her music videos and appreciated her different style and her ability to put on entertaining shows as well as being a decent vocalist/pianist. When Bad Romance released I instantly fell in love with it and bought TF+TFM set. I've been a fan ever since and I was pretty supportive of most of the choices she made during the BTW era. All eras, (TF, TFM and BTW) had good aspects and negative aspects to the era. People whined and complained about TFM era and the Alejandro video a lot as well and thought BTW would rectify all their problems just as people thought the same for TF era. People are always going to want more from Gaga in some regard and I think more people should just sit back and enjoy the ride. If not they can hop off and listen to other artists. Not everyone's going to like her just like not everyone is going to like every artist. I'd rather her do her own thing than try to be someone she's not in an attempt to have more people like her.
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Originally posted by MrFenty
Because the music was better and she wasn't so serious.
Nobody likes a musical artist who takes their music so seriously to the point where every step they make has some deeper artistic meaning that nobody can understand unless explained to them. That's not art, that's just obnoxious.
oh and the fashion was much better. and the videos.
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You must not remember things very well or weren't paying attention. Gaga always had some deeper artistic meaning even during The Fame days. She just wasn't in the spotlight as much. However, there are plenty of deeper meanings she tried to interject in Poker Face and Paparazzi. On top of that she always went on about David Bowie, Grace Jones, and David Warhol back during The Fame days. Even during Just Dance she had that slightly pretentious artsy side when talking about the Disco Stick or the lightning bolt on her face being a tribute to David Bowie.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
Posts: 10,690
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Originally posted by BadBitch
I mean that's nice and all but isn't it a problem when you need fame and fortune to feel good about yourself? I would rather have songs like TEOG singing about my last moments with someone close to me rather then "hey i just met you let me ride your disco stick".
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I mean that's also nice too but I don't relate to that and her image now just doesn't fascinate me like it did during The Fame.
She talks so much about the 'art' and messages behind her music these days but I'm not feeling her on any of it. She felt a lot more genuine to me in her shameless materialistic ways than her current 'everything is art and I have another message for you' attitude.
Different strokes for different folks I guess 
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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Originally posted by BadBitch
I mean that's nice and all but isn't it a problem when you need fame and fortune to feel good about yourself? I would rather have songs like TEOG singing about my last moments with someone close to me rather then "hey i just met you let me ride your disco stick".
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Well, I myself prefer TEOG. But most people want her to be as basic as you can get (a la LoveGame, On The Floor, etc.)
The Gaga that advocates for a message that is polarizing to not only the general population at large also alienates members of the gay community who want nothing to do with her. The Fame Gaga was one for everybody.
However, I think that even if she went back to The Fame, in terms of music and image, it wouldn't help.
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Member Since: 6/26/2010
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TFM Gaga >>> I was almost a stan 
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Member Since: 6/26/2010
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Lady Gaga took it to another dimension in the TFM era, not this one, this one seems forced, unnatural and even watching the tour videos I feel like she doesn't have as much fun nor energy like she used to, she is too focused on getting her point across. TFM was a mix of TF and BTW and it was perfect
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Member Since: 6/14/2009
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Originally posted by Eric.
Because they liked what they saw.
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+1 Her music may not have been as meaningful as it was with BTW, but her writing just pure pop songs is what she excels at. When she micromanages everything in her career like she tried to do in BTW, it gets messy. Also, I realize her TF image was very superficial and she's more personable now, but it was a defining moment. I hope she can figure out that balance between appealing to the mainstream and keeping true to herself in her next era so she can reclaim some wigs.
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Member Since: 5/19/2012
Posts: 25,222
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Originally posted by Last Boy on Earth
Lady Gaga took it to another dimension in the TFM era, not this one, this one seems forced, unnatural and even watching the tour videos I feel like she doesn't have as much fun nor energy like she used to, she is too focused on getting her point across. TFM was a mix of TF and BTW and it was perfect
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Pretty much this.
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Member Since: 3/18/2009
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Because she actually made good music back then, and she didn't take herself so seriously. The whole Born This Way era was just one big, long, tragic ego trip.
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Member Since: 1/6/2012
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Because she was cool, hip, and didn't take everything so damn seriously.
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Member Since: 5/19/2012
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You guys act like TF era Gaga was 20 years ago. She's only on her 3rd album, gosh.
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Originally posted by Acoustic Soul
You guys act like TF era Gaga was 20 years ago. She's only on her 3rd album, gosh.
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And that's the problem. I love Gaga, but as an artist, she evolved TOO FAST, TOO SOON.
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
Posts: 15,569
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Originally posted by EnslavedBitch
And that's the problem. I love Gaga, but as an artist, she evolved TOO FAST, TOO SOON.
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Yeah, it does seem like she underwent a decade's worth of change in less than a year, from Alejandro to Born This Way...
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