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Poll: Most Undeserved AOTY Win of Past 10 Years
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View Poll Results: Most Undeserved Win?
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Come Away With Me - Norah Jones
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0.74% |
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Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - OutKast
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12 |
2.97% |
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Genius Loves Company - Ray Charles and Various Artists
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6 |
1.49% |
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How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb - U2
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12 |
2.97% |
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Taking the Long Way - Dixie Chicks
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10 |
2.48% |
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River: The Joni Letters - Herbie Hancock
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40 |
9.90% |
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Raising Sand - Robert Plant & Alison Krauss
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9 |
2.23% |
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Fearless - Taylor Swift
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220 |
54.46% |
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The Suburbs - Arcade Fire
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57 |
14.11% |
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21 - Adele
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35 |
8.66% |
Member Since: 12/14/2011
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Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
Are you guys forreal right now?
IASF is Beyonce's worst album to date. It does have it's shining moments (Sash Fierce side - Video Phone + Halo & If I Were a Boy). Overall, it's just a mediocre album with some songs that are just phenomenal, and then others that are just bad.
The Fame was an average album at best. Even GaGa stans don't use it because of how basic it really was. TBH, GaGa didn't do anything risky with the album besides bluffin with her muffin and askin for a disco stick...
The E.N.D. has too many flaws to even list all of them. It was just a random ass album without a set theme.
The Dave Matthew's Band album isn't really competition IMO.
Fearless, IMO, was the best choice. The other albums had a major flaw that it didn't. The Fame would prolly be my #2 choice, followed by IASF, then the Dave Matthews Band album & lastly BEP. The fact they were even nominated shocked me.
She was crossing over to pop with that album and I think Tayloy really did deserve it, because she crossed over by also staying true to country. She had the best of both worlds with that album and it showed with the critical acclaim it got and the best award to win at the Grammy's.
It was most likely between The Fame & Fearless, but I guess Fearless was just a bit better.
I guess pressed Bey & GaGa stans are voting for Taylor when the real upset with GaGa was with The Fame Monster, which was better than the Fame in every way imaginable.
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I agree with all of this, except for the fact that The Fame Monster was also equal to or slightly worse than The Suburbs, so that was an understandable loss as well.
And Born This Way is good, but it was like the fourth best album nominated for AOTY that year and deserved to lose. Timing has not been her friend in situations like these 
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Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
Are you guys forreal right now?
IASF is Beyonce's worst album to date. It does have it's shining moments (Sash Fierce side - Video Phone + Halo & If I Were a Boy). Overall, it's just a mediocre album with some songs that are just phenomenal, and then others that are just bad.
The Fame was an average album at best. Even GaGa stans don't use it because of how basic it really was. TBH, GaGa didn't do anything risky with the album besides bluffin with her muffin and askin for a disco stick...
The E.N.D. has too many flaws to even list all of them. It was just a random ass album without a set theme.
The Dave Matthew's Band album isn't really competition IMO.
Fearless, IMO, was the best choice. The other albums had a major flaw that it didn't. The Fame would prolly be my #2 choice, followed by IASF, then the Dave Matthews Band album & lastly BEP. The fact they were even nominated shocked me.
She was crossing over to pop with that album and I think Tayloy really did deserve it, because she crossed over by also staying true to country. She had the best of both worlds with that album and it showed with the critical acclaim it got and the best award to win at the Grammy's.
It was most likely between The Fame & Fearless, but I guess Fearless was just a bit better.
I guess pressed Bey & GaGa stans are voting for Taylor when the real upset with GaGa was with The Fame Monster, which was better than the Fame in every way imaginable.
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Wow. Points backed up with justifications. Such a breath of fresh air. Now I can go to bed.
Kisses!
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Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
Are you guys forreal right now?
IASF is Beyonce's worst album to date. It does have it's shining moments (Sash Fierce side - Video Phone + Halo & If I Were a Boy). Overall, it's just a mediocre album with some songs that are just phenomenal, and then others that are just bad.
The Fame was an average album at best. Even GaGa stans don't use it because of how basic it really was. TBH, GaGa didn't do anything risky with the album besides bluffin with her muffin and askin for a disco stick...
The E.N.D. has too many flaws to even list all of them. It was just a random ass album without a set theme.
The Dave Matthew's Band album isn't really competition IMO.
Fearless, IMO, was the best choice. The other albums had a major flaw that it didn't. The Fame would prolly be my #2 choice, followed by IASF, then the Dave Matthews Band album & lastly BEP. The fact they were even nominated shocked me.
She was crossing over to pop with that album and I think Tayloy really did deserve it, because she crossed over by also staying true to country. She had the best of both worlds with that album and it showed with the critical acclaim it got and the best award to win at the Grammy's.
It was most likely between The Fame & Fearless, but I guess Fearless was just a bit better.
I guess pressed Bey & GaGa stans are voting for Taylor when the real upset with GaGa was with The Fame Monster, which was better than the Fame in every way imaginable.
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Everyone should read this. "Taylor Swift" might not sound like the most outstanding name to you when you have Beyoncé and Lady Gaga too but her album was easily the strongest out of the five nominated.
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
You do know that means nothing right...
In the 2008 Grammy's, Raising Sand (Metacritic score of 87) won over In Rainbows by Radiohead (Metacritic score of 88)
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The same can be said for 21.
I view that post as a sarcastic reply to those pressed souls who whined about metacritic scores earlier in the thread when The Fame supposedly scored higher than Fearless by 1.
Crow meat must taste delicious.
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Originally posted by Great Username
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Yes, continue taking my words out of context. All I'm saying is that it was all GaGa's work that her producers help fine tune, which made it not only critically acclaimed but commercially successful. And with both together, The Fame deserved the win over Fearless.
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I cannot believe I am seeing Beyonce fans use conspiracy theories as to why Taylor won her Grammy with all the conspiracy theories that float around about how Beyonce won her Grammys, this is too much.
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Originally posted by Loghen
Everyone should read this. "Taylor Swift" might not sound like the most outstanding name to you when you have Beyoncé and Lady Gaga too but her album was easily the strongest out of the five nominated.
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Well, you would think that people would understand that. The Fame is just overrated by general public in general, the album had it's bright moments but those were mostly due to the singles but the album had no real depth and overall it's very lackluster considering all the praise that it gets. IASF has it's bright moments too but as a whole that album just wasn't doing it, 4 should have had more Grammy nominations because as a whole it's a better piece of work.
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Originally posted by Stepfon
I cannot believe I am seeing Beyonce fans use conspiracy theories as to why Taylor won her Grammy with all the conspiracy theories that float around about how Beyonce won her Grammys, this is too much.
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I don't see many Bey fans bitching here. 
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
commercially successful. And with both together, The Fame deserved the win over Fearless. |
Why did Arcade Fire snatch Gaga's 2nd try then? Commercial success is not a factor
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Originally posted by alkralkra
I don't see many Bey fans bitching here. |
Well they may not be a Beyonce fan but the conspiracy theories need to stop as to why Taylor won that damn award.
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
Yes, continue taking my words out of context. All I'm saying is that it was all GaGa's work that her producers help fine tune, which made it not only critically acclaimed but commercially successful. And with both together, The Fame deserved the win over Fearless. |
Please Stop. The grammy voting doesnt work like that.
None of the albums were groundbreaking, but taylors was just the best out of the bunch. There is nothing to argue because everyone will just end up going in circles about who deserved this and that. She won, move on.
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
You bitched about people not explaining their answers in NHB and here you are naming albums and adding a "hmmmm" as an explanation. Your hypocrisy is beyond ridiculous.
Diary entries sung in a melody is not creative or innovative. It might have depth cuz it came from her heart but not enough of a reason for her to have won AOTY. |
You undervalue Taylor's skills as a lyricist and songwriter. She takes an unconventional approach to songwriting, not following a standard rhyming scheme. While everyone else is consumed with how to get that hook by rhyming sounds and repeating the first syllable of words multiple times, Taylor thinks outside of the box, creating alluring music without the need for simple tricks. She writes in an unrestrained manner and the result is great.
The truth of the matter is that as a musician, Taylor Swift is one of the most talented of the nominees. She has shown this by taking the reigns on her latest album... something that very few female Pop artists would do.
Because you don't want to consider her music or lyrics seriously, you will never understand this or appreciate this. Some of the best musicians wrote music heavily based on their life experiences. An album does not have to have an ostentatious presentation in order to be considered for Album of The Year.
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The pressedness in this thread is overwhelming... 
Oh well I think it's understandable since taylor snatched a lot of wigs that year but saying that it was an undeserved win is just unacceptable. Fearless is still charting the Billboard 200 while all of the other nominees fell of the chart since the jurassic times how's that for public concensus.  What kind of timeless slayage?
Oh well Taylor's AOTY trophy stays unbothered. 
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Originally posted by vuelve88
You undervalue Taylor's skills as a lyricist and songwriter. She takes an unconventional approach to songwriting, not following a standard rhyming scheme. While everyone else is consumed with how to get that hook by rhyming sounds and repeating the first syllable of words multiple times, Taylor thinks outside of the box, creating alluring music without the need for simple tricks. She writes in an unrestrained manner and the result is great.
The truth of the matter is that as a musician, Taylor Swift is one of the most talented of the nominees. She has shown this by taking the reigns on her latest album... something that very few female Pop artists would do.
Because you don't want to consider her music or lyrics seriously, you will never understand this or appreciate this. Some of the best musicians wrote music heavily based on their life experiences. An album does not have to have an ostentatious presentation in order to be considered for Album of The Year.
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This. 
Way to go sis! 
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The pressed souls has come.
Rant all you want, hate all you want, but Taylor still got her Grammy AOTY at her apartment. 
*listens to mean.....
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Originally posted by castle13
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Haha. Thanks! 
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Only Fearless
The others are well-deserved
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not to say Grammy 2010 is the most commercial so far
None of the nominees for that year deserved to win AOTY tbh
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Taylor Swift.Her song-writing is formulaic,I can't even tell her songs apart and her work is non-progressive.
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