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Discussion: Pop Girls Worst Career Mistakes
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Beyonce's mistake was still allowing RTW to still be the lead single to a full out R&B album. Not because RTW flopped but because it doesn't represent the rest of the CD well at all....Obsessed was a blockbuster, I dont see how it was a mistake at all, it seemed like her role was added just to put a big name in the movie.
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Gaga: The Born This Way singles choices.
Katy: Her career has been that successful that I can't found any past flaw  Maybe the re-release of TD instead of a complete new album.
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Gaga's biggest mistake wasn't BTW, it was overhyping it and proclaiming it the 'album of the decade'. It's not that great of an album.
Madonna, by now, should have a better ear to know that GMAYL and GGW wouldn't be hits....EVER. I'm honestly shocked that she even though it was ok to record these songs, let alone release them. Flop album. It sold what it sold based on her name alone and nothing more.
Britney shouldn't have gotten involved with Sam Lutfi.
Kelly probably should have recorded those "commercial" songs that Clive wanted on My December so the label would have backed the record even a LITTLE instead of sabotaging it. But she bounced back
Avril should have matured instead of going backwards with her songwriting/material. Her first album is way better than anything she's even thought to record since.
Christina - Bionic.
I'm too lazy to continue.
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Rihanna: the Chris Brown Birthday Cake Remix
Katy Perry: re-releasing Teenage Dream instead of moving on to a new era
Nicki: shifting to straight up pop for half of her new album and then getting angry about people noticing. Also have a bajillion tracks... 10-14 is enough for one album..
Marina: dissing Dr. Luke and then working with him. She will never live that down unfortunately, at least on ATRL.
Ke$ha: ending her last era so soon and then completely disappearing.
Britney Spears: 2007
Ashlee: lip syncing on SNL
P!nk: having her baby... okay I don't blame her haha. Love her, just mad I never got to see her live before the baby and probably won't get to for a while now. She released two songs before hand, but no new album, just a greatest hits.
Lily Allen: going away 
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Stepfon,I like you but you really dislike Rihanna.
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Rihanna: Her first two album eras and more recently the Talk That Talk era. (Not counting the success of We Found Love, of course.)
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I mean the girl was getting out to be a big star that she is today. How can you even say the 1st two era was a mistake? I mean just because they didn't see as much success as GGGB does not mean they were mistake. Then Hilary's half discography can be dragged for filth considering it never touched Metamorphosis (i.e. Her sophomore,most wanted and of course Dignity).
Also TTT is not a mistake either. Sure rushed but it has gems like WFL,WHYB,DoL,WnL.
I know it's your own opinion but then again you pretty much dismissing Rihanna's half career.
Just my opinion.
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How was Erotica a mistake? It cemented Madonna as a controversial popstar and is probably one of the most influential pop albums ever, sheerly because of the sexual content. It seemed like a mistake at the time, but it really distinguished herself between the other girls.
Hyping Born This Way wasn't a mistake. It truly could have performed like the album of the decade if it wasn't for those atrocious single mistakes. She rebounded quickly after Judas, but the TEOG video killed all of her momentum. If it was the spectacle we were promised, TEOG would have smashed harder, and her future singles would have been hyped and ready to dominate.
Judas and You And I should have just never been picked, either. 
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Originally posted by bobbymfw
A lot of missed opportunities here;
GaGa: Most of Born This Way era
Britney: Kevin Federline
Hilary: Not Most Wanted, but Dignity
Ashlee: SNL + Orange Bowl incidents
As for Madonna, I think the Erotica era is probably the biggest misstep in the history of pop girls (even though I personally love it). American Life was a big crash-and-burn moment too.
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Dignity wasn't a mistake, it was her best album
... Unless you mean releasing it a year too early. It was so ahead of its time 
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Mistake for
Rihanna: Not releasing Firebomb.
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Originally posted by mariska
Hyping Born This Way wasn't a mistake. It truly could have performed like the album of the decade if it wasn't for those atrocious single mistakes. She rebounded quickly after Judas, but the TEOG video killed all of her momentum. If it was the spectacle we were promised, TEOG would have smashed harder, and her future singles would have been hyped and ready to dominate.
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You're exactly right. Y&I did fairly well and the video was okay, but after the TEOG video didn't propel it to #1, interest in the era was lost.
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I dont get it. Flops and underperformances cant just be labeled mistakes...
Nipplegate was a mistake because it was(IMO) a publicity stunt that backfired.
Nicki doing a half pop/half hip-hop album was a bad idea because she alienated her fanbase with too many pop songs instead combining genres and creating something new she just followed trends.
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Originally posted by Yourfavefan
I actually liked that era... her biggest mistake so far is probably ending the era too soon. Animal could have had more singles, and so could cannibal. Now we are waiting forever for the new era
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I actually loved Cannibal era more than Animal. Every song was amazing!
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Originally posted by mariska
Madonna: Thinking she could make it as an actress/director.
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Originally posted by bobbymfw
As for Madonna, I think the Erotica era is probably the biggest misstep in the history of pop girls (even though I personally love it). American Life was a big crash-and-burn moment too.
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this!
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Member Since: 11/12/2011
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Originally posted by Twai
You're exactly right. Y&I did fairly well and the video was okay, but after the TEOG video didn't propel it to #1, interest in the era was lost.
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Ugh! What could have been.
Born This Way should have just led right into The Edge of Glory, completely skipping over Judas. The timing of TEOG was just atrocious, because that was around the time RID and PRA were really taking off. The Edge of Glory being a second-single, released before the album, having Clarence Clemmons on the track, being an overall amazing song and having an amazing video woulda propelled that song like no other. She shoulda then followed up with Hair, and then Judas, maybe. The controversy from Judas was just too early.
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Originally posted by mariska
How was Erotica a mistake? It cemented Madonna as a controversial popstar and is probably one of the most influential pop albums ever, sheerly because of the sexual content. It seemed like a mistake at the time, but it really distinguished herself between the other girls.
Hyping Born This Way wasn't a mistake. It truly could have performed like the album of the decade if it wasn't for those atrocious single mistakes. She rebounded quickly after Judas, but the TEOG video killed all of her momentum. If it was the spectacle we were promised, TEOG would have smashed harder, and her future singles would have been hyped and ready to dominate.
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I disagree about Born This Way. She set herself up for failure when she hyped the **** out of it. Got people sick of it before they even heard it and by claiming it was SO amazing, it turns people off and they'll trash her/want her to fail even if they like it.
Honestly, Gaga did some interview where she was weeping saying how it's so hard being a pop star because everyone wants you to fail, blah blah. Well, then don't hype yourself up to be SO amazing and people might be more receptive towards you. Not that difficult a concept.
Judas was also stupid. I like the song, but she tried way too hard. Releasing it during Easter to drum up controversy.. trying to make a statement.. just a mess. There's no need for it. TEOG video did ruin any momentum, I agree with that. I don't think there were any smashes on the album left after that. And apparently her label didn't think so either after MTN failed or they'd have released another.
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Originally posted by Hooligan
Beyonce - '4'

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leave it the **** alone...that is her best album x:
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Gaga: Letting Laurianne Gibson have so much creative control with the art direction of her music videos. She damaged the "hype factor" that general audiences had when anticipating a Gaga video. She should have input herelf creatively while still hiring good, well respected directors for shine and polish.
Nicki: I think the biggest mistake Nicki made is that she didn't spend the time writing witty, memorable, or otherwise good lyrics for PF:RR. The pop side is filled with trivial "getting hotter and sexy, let's shut it down" babble, and the hip-hop side is basically her just listing off random **** and accomplishments.
Britney: She continued on without giving a ****. Not entirely her fault though.
Rihanna: The BC remix did more harm than good.
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Originally posted by bobbymfw
As for Madonna, I think the Erotica era is probably the biggest misstep in the history of pop girls. American Life was a big crash-and-burn moment too.
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True Tea has been spilT.
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Member Since: 6/8/2008
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Originally posted by bobbymfw
A lot of missed opportunities here;
GaGa: Most of Born This Way era
Britney: Kevin Federline
Hilary: Not Most Wanted, but Dignity
Ashlee: SNL + Orange Bowl incidents
As for Madonna, I think the Erotica era is probably the biggest misstep in the history of pop girls (even though I personally love it). American Life was a big crash-and-burn moment too.
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I didn't know releasing your best album was a bad career move.
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