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Fan Base: Archived: Taylor Swift (#1)
Member Since: 11/9/2011
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Originally posted by Evun
Hey Taylor stans, do we know when she's releasing a new album / lead single? Any estimates out there?
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Woah. Hey dude! 
I'm more of a hard-core fan than stan, but I guess I can answer your Q.
Lead single estimated this August. As always.
Album will be out at October 2012.
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Originally posted by Evun
Hey Taylor stans, do we know when she's releasing a new album / lead single? Any estimates out there?
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Collab with BoB within a month
Possible collab with Bieber within 2 months
Lead single likely in August
Album confirmed for October
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Member Since: 12/31/2011
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Originally posted by Evun
Hey Taylor stans, do we know when she's releasing a new album / lead single? Any estimates out there?
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August, lead single.
Her label confirmed an October release for the album. 
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Originally posted by enchanted0
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Yay! 
Thanks y'all.
Do we know anything about the direction of the album?
I'm getting excited.
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Member Since: 12/31/2011
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Originally posted by Evun
Yay!
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Welcome.
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Originally posted by Taylor Swift
Oh my. Stan hard.
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By the way, found something that is interesting online:
<<"Today, naïveness and innocence in attitude is reserved for the likes of Taylor Swift — mainstream puppets that are almost always the laughing stock of «advanced» music listeners.">>
Okay, George, this is the fourth or fifth such reference I've seen you make to Taylor Swift - and with all due respect, I'm becoming increasingly convinced that you're making them without actually knowing much about her or her music.
The "mainstream puppet" part simply isn't true - unless your definition of "mainstream puppet" is "sells a lot of records and isn't accused by conservatives of portending the end of Western civilization."
Neither is the "laughing stock of «advanced» music listeners" part. If anybody short of trained music theorists is an "advanced listener", then T Bone Burnett, the Civil Wars, and Dolly Parton among musicians and Robert Christgau among critics certainly are. (I realize you don't like Christgau - neither do I, neither does anybody - but that's not the point.) And she's not their laughing stock. On the contrary.
Granted, SOME "advanced listeners" are less impressed. But as you know, that was true of the Beatles at this point in their career too. This was the same year when some critic wrote, after their Ed Sullivan performance, that they "couldn't carry a tune across the Atlanic"; when, according to Bob Dylan, everybody else in the folkie scene thought they were a passing fad.
You could, of course, say at this point “Taylor Swift ain’t no John Lennon or Paul McCartney.” True. (Neither is anybody else.) But on the other hand, she isn’t Donny Osmond either. In one sense, a comparison between Taylor and the early Beatles is actually valid. Both go down so easily that it’s possible to miss the fact that they’re doing some ambitious things in terms of song structure. (And pulling them off.) (e.g. The unusual number of phrases in the first verse of “Love Story” – three instead of the usual even number – so that the chorus comes in before you’re expecting it; the way everything drops out before the half length last verse of “Speak Now”, except for the acoustic guitar lick that you heard at the beginning of the song, giving you the feeling that you’re coming “full circle.” And then there are more obviously ambitious songs like “Enchanted” or “Safe & Sound”.)
And judging by the two songs she contributed to the Hunger Games tribute album, and the critical reception they got, it won’t be long before Taylor’s reputation gets the same kind of revisal as the Beatles’ after Sgt. Pepper. i.e. Some people who previously dismissed her will decide they were wrong all along. Others will pretend that everything she did previously is still worthless, but that she’s magically become good in the middle of her career.
Getting back to your review: You're right, of course, that nobody today could make a naïve-yet-genius album like A Hard Day's Night. But Taylor Swift is the wrong person for the comparison, because her songs aren’t naïve. Amateurish, sometimes (like everybody's early songs), but that's not the same thing.
Partly the difference is the music and the singing, which can be anything from bombastic (“Haunted”) to intimate (“Never Grow Up”) to sprightly and rootsy (“Mean”) to rocking in a pop punk way (“Better Than Revenge”) to pop-ishly upbeat (“Jump Then Fall”) to some combination of the above – but never even tries for the (seemingly) unthinking, carrying-everything-before-it enthusiasm of the early Beatles (or other British invasion era artists), which seems to be simply out of reach for anybody nowadays.
Partly it’s the lyrics, which show an awareness that, whatever wonderful thing you’re singing about, it’s FLEETING; at some times more blatantly than at others. (e.g. The idyllic romance that everybody makes fun of in “Love Story” without realizing that the whole song is in the PAST tense – “We were both young,” etc.; the “We will be remembered” refrain in “Long Live”.) Not necessarily better or worse than the kind of thing the early Beatles were doing, but different.
For truly naïve, but rather less ingenious than the Beatles (though still certainly showing talent on the part of the writers and producers behind it), recent pop music – as naïve as it’s possible to be these days, anyway – an example would be Justin Bieber’s “Baby”.
One other thing: You say that the Beatles playing themselves in the movie was a bad thing for everybody except John. I'd say it worked at least as well for Ringo, with his permanent-state-of-melancholy/confusion persona. They didn't make him the main character of the subsequent movies) for nothing. (Including the Yellow Submarine cartoon which, of course, the actual Beatles didn't have anything to do with.)
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Member Since: 12/31/2011
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Member Since: 12/31/2011
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Member Since: 12/31/2011
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I forgot about her features.
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Member Since: 11/9/2011
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Originally posted by Evun
Yay!
Thanks y'all.
Do we know anything about the direction of the album?
I'm getting excited. |
She's writing more songs from third person perspective.
It's gonna be more detailed of a story, most likely will start from the beginning until the break up and whatever follows.
Judging from the arm lyrics throughout the tour, she's been into Joni Mitchell and other legendary artists. And indie acts too. Most of them were from under the radar artists. But I'm more excited with her & the Music Bible for female artists, Joni's discography. Learn more about Joni here.
And the covers she did on the road, one would expect something that's from pop world, but you will be very surprised with her song choices. (list of covers) - same with the suprise guests.
Most likely her "HELP!" album/phase if we try to pull Beatles' analogy.
We are on good track I say.
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ATRL Senior Member
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Originally posted by Taylor Swift
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LOL!Where did you post it?
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ATRL Senior Member
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Originally posted by Taylor Swift
According to Twitter, B.o.B will play/release the Taylor collab if he reaches 1 million Twitter fans before the album release. He needs to get 465k more followers.  |
I'll just wait for the album then 
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ATRL Senior Member
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Originally posted by CountryFriedChick
BTW it looks like Tay's opening act might have a future hit on there hand this is from hot ac
51 50 NEEDTOBREATHE Keep Your Eyes Open |
....and another one here riding on Taylor's success 
j/k I love them
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ATRL Senior Member
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Originally posted by Taylor Swift
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When did this happen btw? I mean didn't she just win EOTY only? When was the other time she went on stage to get an award from Blake?
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Member Since: 9/16/2011
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Originally posted by Razzle
When did this happen btw? I mean didn't she just win EOTY only? When was the other time she went on stage to get an award from Blake?
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Taylor presented Blake with Male Vocalist; it happened then.
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