Oh okay thanks for your biased and simple minded thought out input.

Still wont change my opinion, sorry.

Sweetie visuals have NOTHING to do with performing.

You keep trying to make "art" happen when that has jack **** to do with being a stage performer.

Madonna is no ones performer, she is a visionary and it ends there.

Oh you really are doing too much, no offense but if the Gimme Dat performance is all your gonna talk about then ima leave u in your own delusion

tHEN you shouldn't be going around pointing fingers for beyonce stans being able 2 use her current performing skills

Can beyonce do that?

I mean, I can give more performances, but why would I waste my time?

I know.

Whether using props n **** is a bad thing I thought was irrelevent to this thread but either way, both Bey and Madonna have their points in the way they perform but in RAW STAGE POWER; no props, no dancers, no extreme lights, Beyoncé wins BUT that doesn't discredit Madonna as a good performer FOR WHAT SHE DOES.

Why would she want to?

Beyonce's singing, dancing, and acting skills far surpass any perceived "art" Madonna has given us.

Didnt she serve us yoga at the Superbowl along with tons of props and no vocals though?

Gurl just STOP. Ciara can only dance good, her vocals are average she is not one of the best performers JUST STOP.

The jokes speak for themselves. Rihanna dosent do half of what madonna does on stage. take some seats please.

You know what, I want you gone.

Many of you were saying Madonna DEPENDS on visuals. Shawty what the hell?

And Madonna is no one's performer? funny, seeing as how she's thee most influential female entertainer of all time and many pop stars have been influenced by her as well as listed her as a influence on their own career. No one's performer but yet her performances are iconic and have been parodied.

Good Lord, this is still going on?