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Discussion: Subscription to overtake iTunes within 4 years (worldwide)
Member Since: 11/6/2010
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I hate this idea. Spotify is good to use once in a while to listen to new music, but I like the idea of "owning" albums and singles digitally. Plus, what about unreleased tracks/demos?
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Member Since: 10/15/2011
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Originally posted by Aaron
I hate this idea. Spotify is good to use once in a while to listen to new music, but I like the idea of "owning" albums and singles digitally. Plus, what about unreleased tracks/demos? |
If they're unreleased, you can't get them on iTunes either though. 
You can still download them outside of Spotify and then play them using Spotify. I don't see your point.
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Member Since: 11/12/2009
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The itunes days are over, spotify is going to overtake it soon. You can literally stream any song you want anywhere if you have a phone with internet. Also the thing is it doesnt matter if itunes users stay on itunes there are millions and millions of people that previously didnt buy any of their music at all. Spotify is appealing to the people that illegally download stuff like myself  /
Literally everyone i know is getting it.
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Member Since: 11/12/2009
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Originally posted by Aaron
I hate this idea. Spotify is good to use once in a while to listen to new music, but I like the idea of "owning" albums and singles digitally. Plus, what about unreleased tracks/demos? |
Whats the difference between "owning an album" digitally and just playing it online? Theres like no difference. And if you own it physically you can still play it througth spotify its just like any other mediaplayer...
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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The Internet, whether through 3G/4G or Wi-Fi, isn't always smooth enough to trust streaming services. This is my only significant concern.
I could see one of them killing iTunes if Apple refuses to adapt. I haven't gotten Spotify yet, but if/when I do, I imagine I'll only use iTunes to buy albums I want to store from people I love enough to support.
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Member Since: 12/6/2010
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when the major labels give iTunes the All clear to jump on the Subscription Model, I'm sure Apple will come up with a new and interesting way to consume music that will continue to make the others Irrelevant.
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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Originally posted by jj99
when the major labels give iTunes the All clear to jump on the Subscription Model, I'm sure Apple will come up with a new and interesting way to consume music that will continue to make the others Irrelevant.
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If Apple/Itunes want to do subscription, they could do it tomorrow. Apple/Itunes would pay the "going" rate that Spotify/Rhapsody are paying.
The major labels won't stop them. Itunes has a lot more clout with the music industry than everybody else COMBINED. It's the #1 music seller in the world.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...global-rollout
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Muve Music subscription service looking to expand beyond the US
With 600k paying subcribers, bundling unlimited music with voice, texts and data is working well
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600,000 now for MUVE. (a prepaid cell phone carrier with about 5 million customers).
The day when a BIG CARRIER with 100 million customers like Verizon or AT&T do the same, subscription music will overtake Itunes within 1-2 years.
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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If other carriers adopt MUVE model (which the music industry is praying for), the sky is the limit for subscription music.
There are probably over 1 billion people who pay for mobile phone service. If 1/5 of them want unlimited music along with their unlimited talk/text/web, that's 200 million paying subscribers.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...global-rollout
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I spoke to Bolton at the ShowStoppers event in Barcelona on the eve of Mobile World Congress. Cricket and Muve Music's presence here is a sign that the service may expand beyond the US soon.
"For Cricket, it's lowering churn and increasing ARPU [average revenue per user], so we've been thinking that other carriers might like to have this," says Bolton.
"Muve Music is spinning off, and the goal is to get it working with other carriers. The labels are very excited and want to see it go international: they see Muve Music as the vehicle to take this model global. That said, we have no announcements yet."
Muve Music customers in the US certainly seem keen: Bolton says the average user downloads 300 songs a month, and plays them for nearly 40 hours – an important metric, since Muve Music pays labels and publishers per play, rather than per download.
Bolton is keen to stress Muve Music's difference to the reigning king of digital music, Apple's iTunes Store. He describes his service as a "win-win-win" for customers, rightsholders and mobile operators. As opposed to?
"iTunes has been a win-lose-lose. Apple makes millions, but customers have paid a lot of money for music, and the music industry thinks it's lost out on a ton of revenue. You see the value that Apple created, and the value that the music industry had."
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Music Industry Wet Dream!
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/indus...06449152.story
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For Spotify and its peers to capture that segment of the market will take deeper partnerships (mobile carriers and broadband providers) and methods for paying that dramatically reduce friction (integrated billing with a mobile carrier, for example). For the lightest of music listeners, the services may need even simpler products that mimic the one-button simplicity of radio. And it will simply take time for consumers to embrace the subscription model.
But Spotify executives are optimists who see most everybody contributing to getting artists and labels paid. Global subscribers currently sit "well north" of three million and active users are "10 million and change," and Parks said he envisions the platform scaling to 20 million and beyond. "There's no reason why the recorded music industry shouldn't be multiples of the size it [currently] is," he said.
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the holy grail for music subscription in my opinion (bundled with mobile carriers).
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 3/1/2007
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I hate the idea of subscription music. Yes it's much cheaper, but I hate the fact that you don't OWN a copy of the song/album yourself. Once you cancel your subscription, boom the music is gone. I'll stick to iTunes till the end.
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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Originally posted by Jared
I hate the idea of subscription music. Yes it's much cheaper, but I hate the fact that you don't OWN a copy of the song/album yourself. Once you cancel your subscription, boom the music is gone. I'll stick to iTunes till the end.
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according to you,
subscription is much cheaper than buying CD/mp3....(which save you lot of $$$$ over time)
why would you ever cancel and go back to buying CD.mp3?
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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Here's the result from France
http://www.telecompaper.com/news/fre...-in-2011-study
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France's digital music industry grew by 25 percent to EUR 110 million in 2011, according to copyright holders' association SNEP. Downloads accounted for EUR 56 million of revenue, with subscription and streaming services accounting for most of the remainder. Download revenues grew by 18.4 percent compared to 2010. Streaming and subscriptions grew by 73 percent to EUR 39 million. Subscriptions services such as those from Spotify and Deezer grew by 89 percent to EUR 26 million.
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downloads; 56 million EUR (growing at 18.4%)
subscription: 26 million EUR (growing at 89%)
Downloads + Subscription = 82 mil EUR
Download = 68.3%
Subscription = 31.7%
If they both grow at the same rate (18.4% and 89% respectively), next year it will be
Download: 63.3 mil
Subscription: 49.1 mil
which mean subscription will overtake downloads the year after that.
In other words, subscription will overtake Itunes in FRANCE in less than 2 years from now.
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Member Since: 6/22/2005
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spotify is stupid...........what about if your in an no internet zone..??
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Member Since: 3/31/2011
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Personally, I love Spotify. They make it so much easier to find new artists. I think it could help diversify the charts if it were to overtake iTunes
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
Posts: 2,187
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Originally posted by mig123
spotify is stupid...........what about if your in an no internet zone..??
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It has an OFFLINE MODE.
You can listen to 3,333 songs with no internet because the songs you chosen for offline mode is cached in your smartphone memory.
no idea why they choose 3,333.
You can read more about it here:
http://www.spotify.com/fi/help/faq/mobile/
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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Telstra, one of Australia's wireless phone carriers, signs deal with MOG
http://www.smh.com.au/business/media...419-1xahq.html
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If around one fifth of Telstra's mobile subscribers alone took the new MOG service at prices similar to current streaming offerings, it could generate over $150 million annually for record labels (assuming similar revenue splits seen between players in other markets). If Optus and Vodafone follow with similar offerings – or even Foxtel and other fixed broadband players – it's clear to see how these new partnerships could drive music industry revenues in the coming years.
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Telstra Mobile is Australia's largest mobile telephone service providers, in terms of both subscriptions and coverage.
As of September 2007, Telstra had an estimated 9.3M mobile subscribers.
This is the equivalent of Verizon + T-Mobile signing a deal with Spotify or Rhapsody or MOG or Rdio in the USA.
Telstra is a HUGE carrier in Australia.
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Member Since: 11/2/2009
Posts: 19,838
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Originally posted by mig123
spotify is stupid...........what about if your in an no internet zone..??
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And what about the price compared to the rate you buy music?
If you only buy one single from iTunes a month or an album every other month how is paying $10 to listen to music you don't own cheaper than continuing to download songs?
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Member Since: 12/1/2011
Posts: 24,324
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i listen to music on my ipod 95% of the time so spotify wont be convinient for me anytime soon, i have an iphone too but being underground = me not listening to music? no ty
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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Originally posted by jose168
i listen to music on my ipod 95% of the time so spotify wont be convinient for me anytime soon, i have an iphone too but being underground = me not listening to music? no ty
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you can listen to up to 3,333 songs on spotify in offline mode. No need for internet/3G/4G connection.
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