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Discussion: Why are fans of "real artist" so pretentious?
Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Why are fans of "real artist" so pretentious?
Like I mean really? It's all over this board. "Oh the queens come back this year"", "Real music is on the comeback", "I only stan for TALENTED artist", blah, blah, blah. Bitch you aren't any better than anyone because of the music you listen to and I know while half of you fans of "real music" are sitting on ATRL with your stank attitude, you're bopping to these "non-talented" artists music. WTF is "real music" anyway? Now don't get me wrong, I miss the old school R&B and all of the oldies, but what makes that more real than the music on the scene today? Is is more real or is it simply more catered to that point in time? What's funny is yeah artists like Rihanna have songs like "S&M" and "Only Girl", but she also has songs like "Firebomb", "Russian Roulette", "Cold Case Love", "The Last Song", or "Farewell". She has a plethora of songs that are lyrically and metaphorically in-depth, but she is only discredited for her pop fluff. Beyonce has "Single Ladies", "Diva", "Videophone", etc. as well as her "real music"... Why is her "trash" swept under the carpet?
I'm just trying to understand where we draw the line on what real music and what fake music is and why some artists get a pass and others get stones thrown at them for the same thing? Just help me understand. I'm a fan of most of the popular artists on here. I'm a big fan of Rihanna, but I listen to everyone and everything. Why can't we appreciate all music and what all artists bring to the table instead of making everything a competition or a silly, pointless stan war?
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Few minutes ago I got called out stanning for 'popcorn artists'.It's really sad.
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"Real music" is a ******** term people use to justify their personal tastes and seem more mature. Real music is whatever you want it be.
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Originally posted by KΔΥ.ΒΣΣ
Beyonce has "Single Ladies", "Diva", "Videophone", etc. as well as her "real music"... Why is her "trash" swept under the carpet?
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Clearly you're feeling some type of way and you want this thread to get set the **** off.
Continue to dwell in your feelings.
No one ****ing cares. #brap
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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I couldn't agree more but this is ATRL I got used to it...
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Originally posted by KΔΥ.ΒΣΣ
Beyonce has "Single Ladies", "Diva", "Videophone", etc. as well as her "real music"... Why is her "trash" swept under the carpet?
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I have never seen a place like atrl.net in my life. It is the place where Beyonce is discredited the most. whether for as you said "her real music" or "her trash".
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by _roc la familia .
Clearly you're feeling some type of way and you want this thread to get set the **** off.
Continue to dwell in your feelings.
No one ****ing cares. #brap
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Why are you so mad?
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Member Since: 8/14/2007
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The saddest part is that none of ATRL's regulars are real artists 
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by SashaFierce
I have never seen a place like atrl.net in my life. It is the place where Beyonce is discredited the most. whether for as you said "her real music" or "her trash".
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It was an example  and she's not.
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Member Since: 10/2/2009
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I just listen to music that pleases my taste, so whatever I think is "good music" is simply based on my opinion.
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And any Beyoncé stan who uses the phrase "real music" is full of ****, considering we complain about neo-soul stans using that ******** term all the time.
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Originally posted by ****y On Venus
"Real music" is a ******** term people use to justify their personal tastes and seem more mature. Real music is whatever you want it be.
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Member Since: 10/2/2009
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Originally posted by SashaFierce
I have never seen a place like atrl.net in my life. It is the place where Beyonce is discredited the most. whether for as you said "her real music" or "her trash".
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no one is discrediting anyone
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Originally posted by Peep Show
It was an example and she's not. |
Here is the best example. 
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Originally posted by _roc la familia .
Clearly you're feeling some type of way and you want this thread to get set the **** off.
Continue to dwell in your feelings.
No one ****ing cares. #brap
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Clearly you don't know me or how the **** I'm feeling right now or comprehend the basis of this thread. #brap that bitch.
I clearly stated that I like Beyonce, in fact I've made numerous threads about her, praising her and her music. She was just ****ing example. I could've used Adele or any other of these so called "real artists" to get my point across. Is it really me or you feeling some type of way? Now I wasn't aiming for this thread to "get set the **** off". I was hoping that we could discuss the topic at hand in a civil manner, but it's always the hoodrats who show up to a thread first acting an ass. Never fails...
The point is, people try to justify who the stan for when really and truly... What's the ****ing difference?
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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It's just your personal taste,never in my life have i said "Beyonce is better than so and so" because she makes "real" music..I just could relate to her music a lot more.
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Who the **** is discrediting Beyonce? There's a reason why trash is in ****ing parenthesis.
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Member Since: 4/17/2011
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An article from the wigcrypt.
(The subject is Beyonce, but it pertains to all artist who make "Fake Music")
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People complain about the "shallowness" of music today. Music ain't like it was "back in the day". Well part of the reason is that music is not received the way it was "back in the day". No matter how "deep" any of us think we are, we still look at music more than we listen to it. Erykah Badu said something really powerful that spoke on this issue, she said: "I discovered I'm in a world full of personality worshippers: People aren't looking for a savior. They're looking for someone who looks like one."
She was speaking on this preconceived notion about how a "real" artist is supposed look, act, dress, and sound. Over 10 years ago, right after her first album had dropped and some of her fans were upset that her dreads were actually extensions. I mean a "real" artist has "real" hair... right?
I guess Erykah longs for a world where we could listen to music free from our preconceived notions about what "real music" is supposed to look like and how "real music" is supposed to be expressed. And she's right about us living in a world full of personality worshippers. When I ask you who your favorite artist is, I am not asking, who is the most best singer, the best dancer, or even who's the most naturally talented, what I am asking is if you were famous which one of these tricks would you like to be? Who would you most like to be friends with? Perhaps if we lived in a world where we judged Erykah's music based on the content instead of what is under her head wrap, or how she conducts her personal life, we could kill this "real" versus "fake" argument once and for all.
I've grown tired of the misuse of the words "real" and "deep". To me "real' is whatever applies to you at that particular moment. If your heart is broken and you need 'Irreplaceable" to pull you out of it then that's real for you. If you need a little self-esteem boost and want to listen to "Diva" that's real for you. If you want to bend over in front a bathroom mirror and send the pictures to your boyfriend then "Video Phone" may be the realest **** ever created. I can't say which one of these songs will go down in history as classics because classic means that it withstands the test of time, and in order for me to know that would mean that I have a time machine which can see into the future. I don't, and I'm willing to guess that you don't either. Not all current classics were deemed classics out of the gate. Not everything mainstream is bad, and not everything underground is good. It simply boils down to what speaks to you at that particular time.
In trying to make Beyonce "real' we may be trying to make her something she's not. and maybe it wasn't just a smart "marketing gimmick" to split her album in half. Maybe Beyonce realized that people's lives are not so simple that one artist, one song, one album, or one style is going to say everything we want to hear ALL the time. That's why we can pull a little bit from everybody. The great thing about it is that if Beyonce isn't saying what I want to hear, maybe Alicia is, and if she doesn't have the words, maybe Keyshia does, or Erykah, or Kanye, Rihanna, or Keri, or Solange. The great thing about life and iPods is that there's more than enough space for variety. Not one artist can be all things to all people no matter how multi-talented they are. There are many of different people with many different life experiences, and many different songs to go along with it.
Maybe Beyonce has heard the "real" versus "fake" argument a thousand times and in spite of it she still sings about swinging her thong around on her video phone, or about her kitty kat, or about how much of a diva she is. Despite all the pressure and the criticism, she makes exactly the kind of music she wants to make, how she wants to make it, when she wants to make it. Isn't that what a "real" artist would do?
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http://wigcrypt.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html
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