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Celeb News: Comparison: Madonna vs. Lady Gaga
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Comparison: Madonna vs. Lady Gaga
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Madonna, back in the superstar spotlight with her "W.E." film and her date to perform at the Super Bowl, finally addressed the matter of her self-described biggest fan, Lady Gaga.
Of the homage to Madonna's "Express Yourself" that is intrinsic to Gaga's "Born This Way," she told ABC's Cynthia McFadden it "feels reductive." As in reduced, abridged, less than. She also said "I can't really be annoyed by it ... because obviously I've influenced her."
Obviously indeed. Where does the line fall between being influenced by someone and plain old copying her? Grace Jones, another Gaga influence, was quoted in the U.K. saying, "I've seen some things she's worn that I've worn, and that does kind of p--- me off." But it's Madonna, more than other celeb, who keeps getting the Gaga deja vu. Acknowledging that both ladies' talents are far beyond those of more run-of-the mill stars, we decided to run a comparison check:
MADONNA, NEE MADONNA LOUISE CICCIONE
Vital Statistics:
-- Birthplace: Bay City, Mich.
-- Age: 53
-- Height: 5 feet 4.5 inches
LADY GAGA, NEE STEFANI JOANNE ANGELINA GERMANOTTA
Vital Statistics:
-- Birthplace: New York City
-- Age: 25
-- Height: 5 feet 1 inch
Madonna record-holding: The top-selling female recording artist of all time, according to the Guinness Book of World Records, with more than 300 million records sold worldwide.
Lady Gaga record-holding: First music artist to get a billion viral views on YouTube; Most Followers of anyone on Twitter -- 13 million -- according to 2012 edition of Guinness Book of World Records.
Madonna, Structure: Flab-free, perfect muscular dancer's body and toned yoga arms
Gaga, Structure: Flab-free, almost-androgynous-looking body with bones apparent
Madonna, watch it with those things: Cone bras
Gaga, watch it with those things: Machine-gun bras
Madonna, ancestry: Italian and French Canadian
Gaga, ancestry: Italian and French Canadian
Madonna, outrageously eye-catching in: "Erotica" book S&M gear; "Sex" book nudity, including nudity hitchhiking; toplessness with black leather, whips in a stable evoke bestiality in a W photo spread; male drag and more
Gaga, outrageously eye-catching in: "Alejandro" video S&M gear, meat dress, plastic bubble dress, Muppet dress, antlers, horns, no pants, male drag, lobster hats, dozens of other wacky performance-art-style outfits
Madonna, family: One of eight children of an automobile design engineer father, she lost her mom to breast cancer when she was a young child. The traumatic life event scarred and strengthened her.
Lady Gaga, family: Elder of two sisters. Her father, Joseph, is an Internet entrepreneur, and her mother worked in telecommunications. Resists description of childhood as "affluent," but it was at least comfortable.
Madonna, coming of age: Dropped out of the University of Michigan, where she attended on a dance scholarship, and headed to New York City on her own to make it as a performer with $35 in her pocket. Called the move "the bravest thing I'd ever done." She worked at Dunkin' Donuts until her dance gigs supported her, eventually getting into the music scene, singing and playing drums and guitar in her earliest bands.
Lady Gaga, coming of age: Dropped out of NYU, where she was a musical theater student at the Tisch School on early acceptance (age 17). A pianist from age 4 and song writer from age 13, she went and got her own apartment in the City (her father agreed to pay the rent for a year) to make it as a performer. Before she hit it big, she says burlesque dancing was her No. 1 source of income.
Madonna, Religious Background: Had a strict Catholic upbringing. Now she strongly supports the Jewish-related Kabbalah faith.
Gaga, Religious Background: Grew up in the Roman Catholic faith, attended the Convent of the Sacred Heart private all-girls school on Manhattan's Upper East Side.
Madge, provoking the church: In the "Like a Prayer" video, she danced in front of burning crosses, and it was so controversial that she lost her endorsement with Pepsi. Ongoing tweaks, such as her "Immaculate Collection" compilation album. More recently, she upset church leaders by performing a song during her concerts while hanging from a cross.
Gaga, provoking the church: Her "Alejandro" video, which featured her sucking on rosary beads and wearing a nun's habit in scenes suggesting S&M and group sex, led to Katy Perry's Tweet: "Using blasphemy as entertainment is as cheap as a comedian telling a fart joke." Her "Judas" song caused the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights to accuse her of blasphemy, too.
Relationship status, Madonna: Twice divorced (Sean Penn, Guy Ritchie); son Rocco with Ritchie; daughter Lourdes with Carlos Leon. She's been linked to choreographer Brahim Rachiki and studly male model Jesus Luz in recent years.
Relationship status, Gaga: Single, boyfriend of six months is handsome actor and model Taylor Kinney.
Madonna and girls: She made headlines by deep-kissing Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera at the VMA awards.
Gaga and girls: Proclaims her bisexuality.
Madonna influences: The Supremes, Martha Graham, Karen Carpenter, Led Zeppelin, Rudolf Nureyev
Gaga influences: Madonna, David Bowie, Freddie Mercury, Andy Warhol, Grace Jones, Yoko Ono
Madonna, quote: "People think being a star is about being fabulous, having your picture taken all the time, going to parties in limousines, having everyone worship and adore you, being rich, rich, rich ... having it all. And you know what? They're absolutely right."
Gaga, Quote: "I've made it my goal to revolutionize pop music. The last revolution was launched by Madonna 25 years ago."
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I think the most interesting facet of this entire Madonna vs. Lady Gaga dispute is the fact that Gaga is, to my knowledge, the only major pop star that Madonna initially sanctioned and then withdrew support for.
She's been known to "support" major pop stars that are the next big thing, like she did with Britney Spears back in the day. She sort of uses them as stepping stones for her own relevance, but it seems like Gaga is quite a different breed: someone who is obviously inspired by her, but also ready to play the game just as hard as her.
Thoughts?
p.s. Sorry to re-use the banner at the top. It's my fave.
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Enough already!
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Madonna record-holding: The top-selling female recording artist of all time, according to the Guinness Book of World Records, with more than 300 million records sold worldwide.
Lady Gaga record-holding: First music artist to get a billion viral views on YouTube; Most Followers of anyone on Twitter -- 13 million -- according to 2012 edition of Guinness Book of World Records.
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WaiT! 
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Madonna record-holding: The top-selling female recording artist of all time, according to the Guinness Book of World Records, with more than 300 million records sold worldwide.
Lady Gaga record-holding: First music artist to get a billion viral views on YouTube; Most Followers of anyone on Twitter -- 13 million -- according to 2012 edition of Guinness Book of World Records.
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How embarrassing 
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Close this mess.
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Originally posted by J a y
How embarrassing
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to be fair, gaga has sold 1/3 of madonna's total records in 1/10 of the time.
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to be fair, gaga has sold 1/3 of madonna's total records in 1/10 of the time.
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...And in the digital era too, when overall album sales have drastically declined.
But I think Jay was laughing at the fact that they couldn't compile better records for Gaga, when she has quite a few other more impressive records other than "most followers on twitter" 
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Enough!! No matter how you put it or in how many ways you explain it the fact still remains Madonna >>>>>>>>>>>
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
to be fair, gaga has sold 1/3 of madonna's total records in 1/10 of the time.
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Madonna sold 200 million albums.
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.But I think Jay was laughing at the fact that they couldn't compile better records for Gaga, when she has quite a few other more impressive records other than "most followers on twitter" |
Basically. 
Social network records are good but they are comparing them to sales. A mess.
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
to be fair, gaga has sold 1/3 of madonna's total records in 1/10 of the time.
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Has gaga sold 100 million of albums? Wow that's impressive.
Close this thread please, enough is enough.
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This is an example of overextending and overexaggerating Gaga's success and influence.
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CLOSE THIS MESS
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
I think the most interesting facet of this entire Madonna vs. Lady Gaga dispute is the fact that Gaga is, to my knowledge, the only major pop star that Madonna initially sanctioned and then withdrew support for.
She's been known to "support" major pop stars that are the next big thing, like she did with Britney Spears back in the day. She sort of uses them as stepping stones for her own relevance, but it seems like Gaga is quite a different breed: someone who is obviously inspired by her, but also ready to play the game just as hard as her.
Thoughts?
p.s. Sorry to re-use the banner at the top. It's my fave.
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Hmm, besides Britney, not really. She never really talked good about, or even talked about Paula, Tiffany, Debbie Gibson, Mariah, Janet, etc. There was the time she wore a Kylie shirt, but I think she does like Kylie, plus Kylie was pretty established for a decade at that time. I think Britney's innocence and cultural omnipresents piqued her curiosity.
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Stop with all the madge gaga comparisons!!!!
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This is getting old. 
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Lady Gaga, coming of age: Dropped out of NYU, where she was a musical theater student at the Tisch School on early acceptance (age 17). A pianist from age 4 and song writer from age 13, she went and got her own apartment in the City (her father agreed to pay the rent for a year) to make it as a performer. Before she hit it big, she says burlesque dancing was her No. 1 source of income.
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they forgot about marylin
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
She's been known to "support" major pop stars that are the next big thing, like she did with Britney Spears back in the day. She sort of uses them as stepping stones for her own relevance
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Receipts? She still supports Britney.
Lame dig.
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