Neither because they were performed less than 2 weeks apart.

The video premiered about 2 1/2 weeks after the AI performance so I have no idea what you're thinking of, but I do know that it's wrong.

Yes, it is an excuse. How can a single smash if it isn't promoted properly? It won't.

Internet promo = more pirated downloads.

This ****

"With more promo the song would've SMASHED!"

"The album would've sold so much more if it'd gotten more PROMO!"

is nonsense

It doesn't exist for big name popstars. Everyone knows when these big name stars drop new music and everyone with even the slightest interest in pop music will listen to it and see if they like it. If they do, they may buy it or they may not.

Promotion can be effective to reach new audiences but it often takes amazing performances to do that and I can only think of Beyonce who is capable of such these days. Katy, Rihanna, Britney, Kesha, even Gaga promoting doesn't make a difference.

For newer artists? Promo is definitely required. But even then, the internet is still the biggest outlet by far these days.

Yes, it does. Singles can only do so much.

No.

This thread is just denying the obvious

The digital era makes it harder to sale albums because the people who are 'aware' of new album releases through the use of digital media and social networks are also aware of how to access and download new music illegally. Essentially, the point of promoting an album is not to reach the digital audience but rather those casual listeners who receive most of their information through TV/Radio. They're not interested in googling or youtubing an artist, most of the information they come across is through a passive form of media as opposed to being active agents.

Which is exactly why even established artists receive huge sales boosts post-promotion, right? And exactly why artists with more promotion tend to sell more strongly than artists with less, even if they're established, right?

I think I kind of get your point. For example, an succesfull artist like Rihanna who's at her 6th album should be able to sell a certain amount - match her previous albums performance without any additional promo. After all, she's already created a fanbase and a target group. She's not a new artist. She doesn't need to be on Ellen trying to reach a new demographic, after millions of records sold people know who you are and what sort of music you deliver.

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The only thing tho, is that people generally didnt know she had a new album because they were still buying Loud. Thats when you get out and make it clear We Found Love is for a new album.

But for someone like Britney, you cant use the promo excuse if shes the deemed "Queen of Pop" of the 2000's.

After witnessing half a performance of Pink singing 'So What', I decided she was so awesome that I bought not only her album but tickets to her concert. So I don't think the 'no promo' excuse is entirely full of crap.

Y'all fail to realize that Rihanna is a Pop artist, and Pop artists rarely maintain a stanbase. Even if those artists do have fanbase, their sales skyrockets in the first week, then freefall afterwards and never climb up back again. Rihanna does have a huge fan base, but her main fan base isn't in the US like other artists such as Britney, Lady Gaga and Beyonce.

Promo does help, a lot. One may be interested in the artist, but sometimes you just don't have enough time to search or follow their releases, so when an artists promotes on TV, its likely that it'll interest those watchers who have been interested in the artist before, but weren't willing to stay updated with the artists every day until they release new music. And even if this certain artists maintains a supporting fan base throughout the year, their first week sales would be huge, but after the first week sales, they'll be struggling to sell, unless they get out and promote. And if they don't have good singles to promote with, then they're on a problem.

Also, you fail to realize that promo also means radio airplay. Radio airplay is the biggest form of promo, then comes music videos, and after that TV appearances.

You will see how huge promo effect can be after the Super Bowl.

Mark I love you sis but this thread is just ********

well no, but yes promo can def help and we have seen that, it's prove

when I don't know for example an artist perform on American Idol then it suddenly smash on iTunes that's why we need promo, maybe not for an album but when it comes to a single yes.


but yes I agree that the bigest promo is on the internet 'cause that's the new way, everyone is there.

THIS.But then again Britney could have done a little better with promo (then again there's the Loyal stanbase defense).As for Rihanna;If you noticed she has a solo single out on the radios,and it's NOT on LOUD or any of her previous albums,then you should most likely assume that it's on a new album(or that it's on a soundtrack but that's not the case).... (Then again,this is my way of thinking -when I heard Umbrella,I automatically assumed Rihanna was coming out with a new album.)

No shade because I like TTT (Do Ya Thang,BDay Cake,DOL,and WNL slay IMO)

IDK why people brought LOUD to see if WFL was on it IMO...