Saavedra should have been punished, and I feel for Nuno's family...but bullying is so wrong...I just don't know what else to say. It's a tragedy no matter how you look at it. I just wish this stuff would stop. It never will, because it's human nature, but jeez

Right.
It's just not fair for the family at all.

Even if it wasn't a maximum sentence, Saavedra should have gotten some kind of punishment.

This sends the message that it's okay to brutally kill and call it self-defense. And it's not.

Not really. Even if the teachers took action (which isn't always likely) and the bully got suspended or expelled, I'm sure he would go after the victim with a vengeance.

Sad, but so true.

If the situation is life-threatening, it sure is.

I agree with the judge.

Did the bully deserve to die, no. But was the bully going to stop bullying the kid, who got off the bus many stops before his to avoid confrontation, probably not. People take bullying so lightly, but when things like this happen we have to realize bullying is much more than name calling and a simple push.

I agree with the judge's decision.

I do hop on board in certain instances.

Diana Abbott has got to go.

Um, no. It sends the message that it is not okay to go about making someone's life a living hell because one day he or she will snap. Its not like the kid approached the bully and stabbed him, he was defending himself because if not he would have been beaten up or worse. And people have actually died from things like that.

All of this could have been avoided if the kid was just left alone.

Whatever happened with that, anyways? presumably she got off scot-free

She made another ignorant comment not long after. She's ruined herself regardless. She'll never be taken seriously again.

Eh...he had it coming.



Sucks he died though.

Exactly.


The problem is that people are so blinded by the context of the situation. If you take away the word "bullying", remove them from high school setting, and reword it differently, things demystify...

One person was physically assaulting another and had done so repeatedly. This person also made threats to the victims well being and stalked him to carry through with said threats. Aggressor attacks victim, victim defends self, aggressor dies as a result. Clear cut case of self defense. The problem is that in high school, as opposed to the real world, things like physical abuse and harassment seem to be regarded as "normal" and "not that serious".

I want to ask you a question, and be honest: Have you ever been bullied? I mean, truly, emotionally and physically bullied? Because I have. I've been in nearly the exact same situation as this kid, just without a knife...and, let me tell you, I was terrified that I was going to die. There were no teachers or school staff nearby to try and break up the scene, there were kids nearby that weren't rushing over to protect the bullied. It was just me and a couple of kids who seemed intent on breaking me emotionally, if not physically, if things got out of hand.

The point of all of this is that I've been in exactly the kind of situation that Saavedra was in and that it's just not easy to say that you wouldn't have done the same thing had you not been in his shoes. I was trying to avoid a fight, but these kids wouldn't let me go and let bygones be bygones. They were intent on making my day (and had been making my life) a living hell. The only differences between my situation and Saavedra's is that I didn't have a knife and my experience ended with tears and a permanent emotional/psychological scar instead of a death.

When you're bullied like this, when you're bullied to the point where you're about to go through a nervous breakdown, the bullied person is a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. The bullied could be emotionally scarred for life and carry it with them for the rest of their lives, or they could take out their aggression on themselves (such as the case with Jamey Rodemeyer), or they will take it out on the bullies (such as the case here), or they might even take it out on the bullies and other people who weren't involved in the bullying. It's so easy for some of you to say that "killing is wrong, no matter the circumstance" or that "he should have reported the bully to a teacher or to the authorities", but you have to understand that it's just not that simple. It's never that simple. When you're in a situation like the one Saavedra was in, where Saavedra was already being bullied and no one was doing anything about it (that includes parents, students, teachers, whoever), you feel as if no one will ever help you. You feel that you are completely alone and isolated. It's a terrifying feeling, especially when facing a couple of bullies that have every intent to harm you (and it's not clear what the severity of the beating would have been for Saavedra, either) and continue to make your life a living hell after this if you survive the beating they are about to give you.

It's easy for us to stand on a soapbox and say that any one of us would have done things differently, but, unless you've been in a situation like Saavedra's, you'll never completely understand what he was going through.

When he was stabbing, I'm sure adrenaline was kicking in. I'm more than sure he didn't even realize he stabbed the boy 12 times.

THIS

look at all the far left liberals defending the BULLY .........