A) What Nick said.
B) I've worked really hard to get in to a college like that, so don't even start.
C) When was this an intelligence competition? Oh that's right, you're trying to put my intelligence down so you can look better and win by default. Nice try, buddy.

I respect your cristicism of me. I don't think I mind the fact that theres a whole spectrum of gay people out there, I'm just mad at the fact that people like Carson from Queer Eye are the ones representing us in the media and on TV since aren't actually representative of the whole gay population. The only show that has shown both sides of the spectrum in a signficant way was Real World. When they had that femme guy and that black guy that nobody thought was gay, I thought that was great.

And also... I've had some personal issues with a few more feminine acting guys. I almost got in a fight with one once because I was talking to a friend about a personal situation and he just started butting in on the conversation like he knew us. After he kept doing it I eventually said "Dude, if you say one more word..." and then he annoyingly said... "word." Naturally since I had a little alcohol in my system I got really angry, but my friends held me back and nothing happened. I had nothing against this guy other than the fact that he was being obnoxious and nosy, and pretty much all my experiences with people like that have been similar... they've all been pretentious with some false sense of entitlement.

This has gone from interesting to embarassing

FROGGY IT'S LIKE WE ARE CONNECTED! WE ARE LOVETWINS!!!!!

Seriously, all challenging discussion has ended.

I'm not really embarassed, should I be?

I really like what Nick has been saying, I also want to quote this post by Jay because it's been over looked...

Sure I'm gay, but there is so much more to me. Things that have nothing to do with my sexual preference. Some minor detail like sexual orientation should shape the way you live your entire life.

Good to see that someone acknowledged my post .
I think that when you're at school/college etc. where there aren't that many gay people you are always going to be known as the gay one even though it may be a small part of who you are. As you grow up people start to care less and less about your sexuality. Teens are fascinated by sexuality, hence why the most common insult is 'you're gay'

Wow. There's a lot that I could say abou tthis thread and will, but only when I get a chance to read through it.

However, to mention something about what Justin said at the bottom of the first page - I actually know that guy who does the Mariah thing. Definitely not his biggest fan but apparently he's a fairly nice guy. There's more to his life than singing Mariah songs, but when he's out on a Thursday/Friday/Saturday/Sunday night, that's his thing.

I try not to butt in. But anyway, I finaly did. :-/

#1. Carson is not represnting anything. He is Funny and cool. I love him. Plus he is gay and flamboyant, that's a plus. If anyone who thinks that he representing gay community, then those people are ignorance/idiot. I hope you are not ONE of those people.

#2. Did you hate him because he butt in your conversation?? or because he butt in plus he acting fem?

1) Eh, not much to say about that. No, I'm not one of those people, and yes the American public has been brainwashed to think most gay people are like Carson.

2) Only because he interrupted me and was acting obnoxious.

Hold up, HITLER! I can *NOT* believe I missed this. You truly are pathetic, Justin. I suggest you just shut the f^ck up because all you do is contradict every thing that you say. I'd rather have a flamer represent the gay community than an IGNORANT DISGRADE of a HYPOCRITE represent what we have been fighting for... and that is INDIVIDUALITY that *YOU* happen to be ashamed of.

Just because you have had issues with "feminine acting guys" doesn't mean you have to take your anger out on everyone else. That is your problem, not everyone else's. So don 't act like the whole world owes you sh^t cause guess what? WE DONT.

Just let it die
with no goodbyes
this **** don't matter
so move the ---- on

*when an argument has fizzled out, I don't get why it is necessary for some to point at older posts in order to make sure the drama does not cease?

Yeah, I guess you're right. Lesbi friends now k? *muah*

I''m actually not finished yet. I think you have a little way longer to be comfortable with who you are Justin because right now, it sounds like you are still making excuses for sexuality. Didn't you finally come out like half a year go? I think most gay people have to feel comfortable with it and you will get there, but right now I dont think you are there from what it sounds like

In all honesty though, I was with a guy who was ashamed of his sexuality (or maybe he just didn't want to be seen with me haha). He was truly uncomfortable and ashamed of his sexuality. What we had was just a night thing. "No, I'm not gay. I'm actually afraid of gay people." I had to break it off. Well, he has a girlfriend now, but he STILL continues to pursue me. I told him I don't want that. Either you're gay and comfortable with it, or you can just live in denial for the rest of your life. It's okay, I've been there and gone through the whole denial and ashamed stage, as well. The end.

Ok so we both had rl experiences that gave us distorted perceptions of eachother. I don't really hate femme guys, I just dislike the attitudes of a few. I respect your individuality and I'm sorry for any hate I portrayed toward you.

Oh and I've been out for about a year and a couple months. I mean, I think I'm pretty comfortable with myself. I've been pretty much accepted by everyone I know and I'm going to a very liberal college (Wesleyan University), so I won't really have any discrimination in the near future that will make me question my comfort with my sexuality. I'm fine with it. I realize now that I was being ignorant to people's individuality, and that it doesn't really have to do with my level of comfortability. What I am uncomfortable with is the way a lot of gay people are treated around the country... and I guess I was just taking it out on him because I was trying to find someone to blame.

It's okay. And I'm really sorry for a lot of the things I said.

Go Virgin *****!

See, we're all just one big gay happy family here.

how cute? I am glad to see the thread end this way. How gay of it. <3