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Discussion: 2011 ATRL Critics Circle - Winners Announced!
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
I think some more alternative albums would have had a chance if we had a chat.
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I agree, it should've been more organized.
And we should've had more time to listen to more things and think about it.
Bart. 
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Originally posted by Santaus
ATRL critics consisting mostly of Bey stans.... Such a great achievement!  And it's so easy for you to just say "with real music critics" without any proof nor receipts whatsoever.

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Ace Reject, the moderator, just said that only 5 Bey stans were on the committee. AND Beyonce has her metascore to prove that the professionals love her.

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Member Since: 6/10/2011
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
Best International Single
1. Adele, "Someone Like You - 34
2. Rihanna featuring Calvin Harris, "We Found Love" - 23
3. Adele, "Rolling in the Deep", 17
(just missed by one point - Florence + the Machine, "Shake It Out")
= Call Your Girlfriend was in fifth place, with ten points.
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I think. that... hm... 4 and 5 are better than 1, 2 and 3.
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Originally posted by Santaus
ATRL critics consisting mostly of Bey stans.... Such a great achievement!  And it's so easy for you to just say "with real music critics" without any proof nor receipts whatsoever.

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Bro, but didn't you read? "FIFTEEN people put 4 as their favorite album of the year; only five were certified members of the Hive." And receipts? Well, we could start with Metacritic. Then, we can end with the Year End lists.

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Originally posted by Santaus
ATRL critics consisting mostly of Bey stans.... Such a great achievement!  And it's so easy for you to just say "with real music critics" without any proof nor receipts whatsoever.

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I told you before:
Satellites. Black Power. Doc. Attitude. Deuces. BnPac.
Those were the only Bey "stans" that participated. That makes up a sixth of all the voters.
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
I agree, it should've been more organized.
And we should've had more time to listen to more things and think about it.
Bart. 
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Well, you've had the whole year to listen and think 
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= Call Your Girlfriend was in fifth place, with ten points.
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Originally posted by supaspaz;7755347[B
]Final verdict: Not bad, but very basic.[/B]
Two major issues that I see: This is ATRL, so people are mostly here for mainstream pop music. And nobody knew what they **** they were doing so it became a matter of populism.
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This was a nice practice run for next year.
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
Ace Reject, the moderator, just said that only 5 Bey stans were on the committee. AND Beyonce has her metascore to prove that the professionals love her.

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Originally posted by Doc
Bro, but didn't you read? "FIFTEEN people put 4 as their favorite album of the year; only five were certified members of the Hive." And receipts? Well, we could start with Metacritic. Then, we can end with the Year End lists.

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Originally posted by Ace Reject
I told you before:
Satellites. Black Power. Doc. Attitude. Deuces. BnPac.
Those were the only Bey "stans" that participated. That makes up a sixth of all the voters.
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Well.

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Originally posted by Ace Reject
Well, you've had the whole year to listen and think 
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I never take the time to organize my thoughts on music throughout the year. The last thing I enjoyed is always what's on my mind for things like this.
Nor do I listen to everything that I should, sadly. It takes me awhile to get around to it all.
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
This was a nice practice run for next year.
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Next time you should include links to all submissions and nominees in the ballot messages. That way every one has a chance to become familiar with every song, every video and every album.
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Member Since: 9/20/2011
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
Ace Reject, the moderator, just said that only 5 Bey stans were on the committee. AND Beyonce has her metascore to prove that the professionals love her.

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Well, IDK know about the committee's assembly but I just made a sophisticated guess based on those results that don't correspond with the current popularity and success of the biggest artists today
And surely professional can love her but it doesn't mean they don't love any other artists...

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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
Next time you should include links to all submissions and nominees in the ballot messages. That way every one has a chance to become familiar with every song, every video and every album.
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Do you know how many different acts/songs/albums were nominated? That is why Spotify and real critics are around.
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Tinychat would be nice.
And a listening party of sorts.
This was nice though, I'm ready for 2012. 
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Beyonce got so snubbed this year.
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Originally posted by Santaus
Well, IDK know about the committee's assembly but I just made a sophisticated guess based on those results that don't correspond with the current popularity and success of the biggest artists today
And surely professional can love her but it doesn't mean they don't love any other artists...

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Ch this is not the AMAs or the VMAs or the 2011 Grammys. This is a critics awards show. We look at quality, not popularity. Sometimes they go hand in hand. Often cases, not.
See, that's why you're confused. Don't even know what kinda awards show this is. 
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Originally posted by Santaus
ATRL critics consisting mostly of Bey stans.... Such a great achievement!  And it's so easy for you to just say "along with real music critics" without any proof nor receipts whatsoever.

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Who are you to say what's authentic and what is not? If it's a playful award, don't get upset.

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Originally posted by Doc
Ch this is not the AMAs or the VMAs or the 2011 Grammys. This is a critics awards show. We look at quality, not popularity. Sometimes they go hand in hand. Often cases, not.
See, that's why you're confused. Don't even know what kinda awards show this is. 
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Well, I know but it's kinda useless. And the quality is a subjective opinion... That's why these awards are mostly just booby prizes IMO
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
(Just missed, by one point - The Black Keys)
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Too bad. A much better choice than the top three.
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Member Since: 9/20/2011
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Originally posted by Shame♥
Who are you to say what's authentic and what is not? If it's a playful award, don't get upset.

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I know I'm just trying to make the Beyhive realize it too
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Originally posted by Santaus
Well, IDK know about the committee's assembly but I just made a sophisticated guess based on those results that don't correspond with the current popularity and success of the biggest artists today
And surely professional can love her but it doesn't mean they don't love any other artists...

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We are here for quality not popularity or commercial success.

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