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Discussion: Rihanna and Katy, the future of pop?
Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Originally posted by frankru2010
The future of Pop? They are doing the stuff from the past. The same old singles stuff. Gaga and now Adele are the ones pushing pop forward. The future is in their hands.
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LOL Are you KIDDING me?!?
Adele is anything BUT original and the future. There are a hundred soul singing, piano hugging chanteuses out there, who have deeper lyrics and better voices. So no.
And reviews of Born This Way are nothing but Madonna, Whitney, and Springsteen comparisons....so no, she's not really pushing pop forward either.
Gaga is big in the pop world, don't get me wrong, but so is Rihanna. Every album that comes around people talk **** and say she's going to do bad, but every time she sells amazing singles, does great album sales WW, and always manages to completely reinvent herself and her sound.
Rihanna will adjust easiest to a changing musical landscape in my opinion. She can do amazing dance pop, country tinged ballads (CKB), hip-hop, and even alt rock (I don't know if you've seen iTunes lately, but Princess of China is #10 right now...no promo). Gaga can do all that too (for the most part), but it doesn't matter if it's not successful.
And also I'd like to note a post someone made way back about how Rihanna and Katy are only catering to what the people want now. WELL DUH. That's what POP music is. It's what's POPULAR now. If a pop star isn't making music their fans and radio don't want to hear, then they are OBVIOUSLY not doing their job very well.
If you want your fave to be some serious artistic singer songwriter, tell them to go hang out with Sarah McLachlan and Alanis Morissette or Bjork. GTFO if you think that pop stars shouldn't be making music to appeal to the masses, because honey thats ALL pop music is about....reinvention to keep up with the musical trends while making it your own.
There will be moments when a new person (gaga, etc.) will come along and change things, but even now Gaga is struggling to keep up with it all...while people like Rihanna are selling great album numbers WW AND sitting high on the charts with her singles.
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Member Since: 6/10/2009
Posts: 10,622
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Originally posted by Rihannito
RIhanna has 4 grammies and will have more this year.
Oh...and....you guyz r acting like the grammies is the only thing that can make an artist relevant...hahahahaahahahha......im here for the charts. ( we getting money tell'em shy roney)
Nice try sis 
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WELL I dont get HOW you're here for charts stanning for someone with 5 albums and no #1 album to her name.
And HOW are Katy & Rihanna "getting money" when neither knows what the top 10 of ANY Forbes LISTS look like.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Originally posted by myNAMEisJAYR
WELL I dont get HOW you're here for charts stanning for someone with 5 albums and no #1 album to her name.
And HOW are Katy & Rihanna "getting money" when neither knows what the top 10 of ANY Forbes LISTS look like.
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Um. A lot of people haven't had #1 albums.
Cher has had over TWENTY albums and only one of hers ever hit #1.....and she is a legend.
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Member Since: 10/7/2011
Posts: 20,627
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Originally posted by myNAMEisJAYR
WELL I dont get HOW you're here for charts stanning for someone with 5 albums and no #1 album to her name.
And HOW are Katy & Rihanna "getting money" when neither knows what the top 10 of ANY Forbes LISTS look like.
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Hun, you don't have to be in the Top 10 to make money. Katy was # 12 and is well off with 44 million. 
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Member Since: 6/22/2011
Posts: 6,997
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The future of pop is impossible to predict, someone from 2001 wouldn't have thought it was possible for Britney's career to go downhill (though she is undoubtedly very popular again) and they wouldn't have predicted Christina Aguilera would be fading (though we don't know what the future holds) The music industry is always changing, and we can't predict whats going to happen. Katy might not get a single number 1 from her next album, she might get 10. In 10 years time, Rihanna might of faded, she might be bigger than ever before. Who knows.
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Member Since: 10/10/2011
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Lady Gaga is the future of pop. The trend right now is electro-pop music, and Gaga managed to do an album like that without being generic and having music sounding like everything else. She's incredibly creative and hard-working and that's why she's outselling Rihanna and Katy. She's also more famous,talked about and she's the one people want to see when it comes to award shows and events. Not to mention she also has a way better voice than the other two and can kill a performance with just a piano and a mic.
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Member Since: 9/26/2011
Posts: 974
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Originally posted by Shinning
Lady Gaga is the future of pop. The trend right now is electro-pop music, and Gaga managed to do an album like that without being generic and having music sounding like everything else. She's incredibly creative and hard-working and that's why she's outselling Rihanna and Katy. She's also more famous,talked about and she's the one people want to see when it comes to award shows and events. Not to mention she also has a way better voice than the other two and can kill a performance with just a piano and a mic.
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
Posts: 539
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I wouldn't even mention ADELE's name in the thread. When people call her a popstar, at least one or two people stop and think. Is she really a pop singer?
Lady Gaga is already on fade mode. BTW was great, and so was TFM, but did it ever top the previous album? They might do extremely well sale-wise, but the singles are getting weaker and weaker. BTW only topped Radio Songs for only 1 week....
Rihanna will likely be on top 2011-2012 with TTT.
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Member Since: 10/7/2011
Posts: 20,627
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Originally posted by Shinning
Lady Gaga is the future of pop. The trend right now is electro-pop music, and Gaga managed to do an album like that without being generic and having music sounding like everything else. She's incredibly creative and hard-working and that's why she's outselling Rihanna and Katy. She's also more famous,talked about and she's the one people want to see when it comes to award shows and events. Not to mention she also has a way better voice than the other two and can kill a performance with just a piano and a mic.
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She's only outselling them album wise. 
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Member Since: 8/21/2011
Posts: 2,353
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Originally posted by zzmyth
OK... I like 3 songs in BTW... and Its far from perfect
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Did you know the word objectivity? It's a selfish and nasty commentary what you just have spit on here. And, objectively, Born This Way is a MASTERPIECE. Teenage Dream, your average pop, radio-friendly album.
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Member Since: 8/21/2011
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Originally posted by Lyzz the Monster
Lady Gaga isn't going anywhere. Her fanbase is big enough to keep her relevant for a long time, and in term of impact, Gaga > Katy and Rihanna combined. She changed her image and music fast, yet people are still here for her (album sales/ tours/ awards). I'm not turning this to my fave, but I feel the need to educate the delusion here.
Anyway, Rihanna can be the future of pop music, she took risk, her music has wide appeal, and she's popular worldwide. Plus, she's younger than Katy, that's important as well.
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Rihanna is not the future of music, the future is already here: Lady Gaga. Rihanna.. they said the same thing 6 years ago, and look where she is: at the same place! It takes courage to say that Rihanna is the future of pop music. And little intelligence to say the same about Katy Perry.
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Member Since: 10/7/2011
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Originally posted by Alberto
Did you know the word objectivity? It's a selfish and nasty commentary what you just have spit on here. And, objectively, Born This Way is a MASTERPIECE. Teenage Dream, your average pop, radio-friendly album.
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Says a Gaga stan.  And BTW and TEOG aren't radio-friendly ? 
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Member Since: 8/21/2011
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Originally posted by rihannafan
Ang gaga is only big because of her gimmicks
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If gimmicks mean:
-Have a vocal abilities, greater when compared to your contemporaries
-Instrument skills
-Dance well
-Create scenarios and do the theatrics
-Write your own songs
Then you are more than right.
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Member Since: 8/21/2011
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Originally posted by Anthagio
Oh, and if anyone is the future of pop, it's Adele. The world is CLEARLY here for that and they're here for that BIG time.
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Member Since: 8/21/2011
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Originally posted by Kats
Says a Gaga stan.  And BTW and TEOG aren't radio-friendly ? 
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A song that has the words gay, straight or bi, lesbian, transgendered life, chola, lebanese, orient, then NO. Some of my friends even have said to feel 'awkward' while listening to that part in group or alone. And The Edge of Glory is radio-friendly, but you can't deny the fact that a song that has big industrial beats should not fall in that category. And, to end this, I am talking about the album as a WHOLE. None of the songs on BTW besides TEOG and Yoü and I are 'radio-friendly'. And I mention Yoü and I even when it was a risk since Gaga only released dance-pop singles. I'm a Gaga stan, and for fortune, I don't lack common sense.
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Member Since: 10/7/2011
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Originally posted by Alberto
A song that has the words gay, straight or bi, lesbian, transgendered life, chola, lebanese, orient, then NO. Some of my friends even have said to feel 'awkward' while listening to that part in group or alone. And The Edge of Glory is radio-friendly, but you can't deny the fact that a song that has big industrial beats should not fall in that category. And, to end this, I am talking about the album as a WHOLE. None of the songs on BTW besides TEOG and Yoü and I are 'radio-friendly'. And I mention Yoü and I even when it was a risk since Gaga only released dance-pop singles. I'm a Gaga stan, and for fortune, I don't lack common sense.
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Yeah, and LFN talking about getting drunk and having sex is radio-friendly. Neither artist releases all radio-friendly material, it is the beat and rhythm of both BTW and LFN that make them popular on radio, not just the lyrics.
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Member Since: 8/21/2011
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Originally posted by Sammi
Stop trying to make everything about your fave.We know who's the biggest attention seeking out of them? What would be your fave without her attention seeking outfits and masks?Are you kidding?
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Damn. This is the point when you can affirm Katy Pets lack artistic common sense. Those, unlike your fave and Rih, are not 'attention seeking outfits and masks' THAT'S ART. It is you, who blinded by your low-sensitivity of art appreciation that interpret it that way.
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
Posts: 18,018
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Originally posted by Alberto
If gimmicks mean:
-Have a vocal abilities, greater when compared to your contemporaries
-Instrument skills
-Dance well
-Create scenarios and do the theatrics
-Write your own songs
Then you are more than right.
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I admit she's talented but let's not act like talent brought her to where she is today, there are too many talented people out there who don't get the recognition they deserve and Gaga used to be one of them. Gaga used to be Stefanie a talented musician that performed in bars but never got recognition cause she was too normal. Everything changed once she changed her name to Lady Gaga got rid of her "normal" image and started wearing over-the-top outfits and gimmicks, I hear more people talk about her outfits and her "weirdness" than they do about her music.
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Member Since: 8/21/2011
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Originally posted by paulsnyder90
LOL Are you KIDDING me?!?
Adele is anything BUT original and the future. There are a hundred soul singing, piano hugging chanteuses out there, who have deeper lyrics and better voices. So no.
And reviews of Born This Way are nothing but Madonna, Whitney, and Springsteen comparisons....so no, she's not really pushing pop forward either.
Gaga is big in the pop world, don't get me wrong, but so is Rihanna. Every album that comes around people talk **** and say she's going to do bad, but every time she sells amazing singles, does great album sales WW, and always manages to completely reinvent herself and her sound.
Rihanna will adjust easiest to a changing musical landscape in my opinion. She can do amazing dance pop, country tinged ballads (CKB), hip-hop, and even alt rock (I don't know if you've seen iTunes lately, but Princess of China is #10 right now...no promo). Gaga can do all that too (for the most part), but it doesn't matter if it's not successful.
And also I'd like to note a post someone made way back about how Rihanna and Katy are only catering to what the people want now. WELL DUH. That's what POP music is. It's what's POPULAR now. If a pop star isn't making music their fans and radio don't want to hear, then they are OBVIOUSLY not doing their job very well.
If you want your fave to be some serious artistic singer songwriter, tell them to go hang out with Sarah McLachlan and Alanis Morissette or Bjork. GTFO if you think that pop stars shouldn't be making music to appeal to the masses, because honey thats ALL pop music is about....reinvention to keep up with the musical trends while making it your own.
There will be moments when a new person (gaga, etc.) will come along and change things, but even now Gaga is struggling to keep up with it all...while people like Rihanna are selling great album numbers WW AND sitting high on the charts with her singles.
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Do you know that Born This Way has sold more in the US and worlwide than Loud and Teenage Dream right?
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
Posts: 8,848
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Originally posted by Kats
Yeah, and LFN talking about getting drunk and having sex is radio-friendly. Neither artist releases all radio-friendly material, it is the beat and rhythm of both BTW and LFN that make them popular on radio, not just the lyrics.
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****ing kii.

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