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Discussion: "Manufactured" Artists
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I mean we know and have seen every detail about the Kardashians' lives right down to what goes down in the bedroom. Are they non-manufactured, authentic stars? 
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Please. There a million girls that looks just as good if not better that would want to become an artist. No one cares what someone looks like when they are listening to them. It helps actresses, because you have to look at them. There is a reason why Katy Perry's music and Jessica Simpson's wasn't.
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Jessica Simpson has an album that sold 7 million, does Katy ?  plus she's a billionaire
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Originally posted by crumprKID
They're all manufactured to an extent, on different level though. Rihanna, Katy, and Gaga etc. have these images that they need to keep up/ change with their albums to not only stay relevant but so they are 'different' from the other girls. Bey, Avril, Adele, etc. have kept the same image they have since the start of their careers, most likely because they don't want to change. Katy & Rihanna have changed from what music they grew up with, to pop music, so they can be Popular and have larger fanbases. Bey, Avril, Gaga etc. seem to project the music they have enjoyed since forever.
I know that changing your look/ sound doesn't automatically mean you're manufactured but it kinda leaves you to wonder if they really wanted to genuinely change.
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While I do think Katy sold herself out a little with this era, she is not a total manufactured label puppet. Like others have said, she writes and co-writes for herself and others, decides what she wants on her albums or to release. She left two major record deals before joining Capitol because they didn't follow through with what she wanted to do.
Everyone knows she was a Christian artist before she decided to go pop. She decided to go pop on her own because she wanted too. Growing up her parents were strict fundies, so she never really got the chance to experience pop culture. Part of that is why she decided to change career paths. I remember she said the first time she heard a song by Queen (wasn't allowed to listen to it) it changed her entire perspective on things.
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Originally posted by Blueberry Kisses
I honestly think Katy Perry doesn't have an OUNCE of originality in her entire body. It's her looks and her producers that basically do all the work.
Report this if you must, but it's my OPINION. I recognize that she does write. But it's not particularly amazing. There are plenty of people in the world with better vocals and capability, Katy just has that "look" and they built a singer around that. Same with Jessica Simpson tbh since she doesn't appear able to do anything...
I suppose Bey was towards the beginning of her career, but she just achieved such a level of success that now she does her own thing, and it's truly BEYONCE. She acquired fame through her intense vocals, striking looks, and massive amounts of star quality which has to stem from SOME actual talent. Therefor she is NOT completely manufactured.
Britney is an enigma. We can't deny the obvious lack of powerhouse vocals, but her voice is very unique and she was an incredible dancer when she first started out. She's a capable pianist and a competent song writer. We don't really KNOW much else since we have no evidence, but people seem to say she's rather in control of her career so I'll leave that one alone.
Gaga, yes. But not in a bad way. She wanted to be this kind of classic rock n' roll chick before Rob Fusari told her to hike up her skirt and use a drum machine, so she did. She has some kind of incredible IT factor, on top of striking looks, fantastic song writing skills, and great vocals. She was a ready-born star, and her label just pushed her to make her ideas bigger and bolder, and that became her schtick. SUPPORT OF THE GAY COMMUNITY WAS ABSOLUTELY HER OWN IDEA. No record label in 2008 would willingly tell their new up-and-comer to back the LGBT community, really. The Madonna similarities emerged later, AFTER that. Nobody compared Just Dance to Madonna unless they were deranged, which is my opinion, but I will leave it at that.
And Christina just kind of fell off the map cause she was manufactured in the wrong way.
There's no such thing as a COMPLETELY non-manufactured mainstream artist, they're not just BORN with a niche in pop music. Someone has to help them along the way, be that the label or their peers. Where they go from there is the defining element.
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Yes, Blueberry. Thank you for this post.
...Vin
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Originally posted by Vin
I want a better understanding of the word "manufactured." For me, the ability to see an artist as a human being and not as a celebrity makes them less manufactured. I see Britney Spears as a human being. I see Beyoncé as Beyoncé -- a megastar. Videos of her dancing as a child and her "personal moment" scenes during "I Am.. World Tour" just seem placed to me. Not saying that it's not genuine, but it feels very planned and put together. I don't feel like I know her, and that's perfectly fine, but it comes off more manufactured, e.g. to always be perfect in the public eye. And again, that's perfectly fine.
In any case, that's just my personal definition of the word manufactured.
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So you're saying that you see Britney more as a human being and less manufactured because of all that she's been through in the public eye or..?
Beyonce has made it very clear that she doesn't want to be remembered for anything of that nature but she will open up to fans about things in her life that relate to her music as well. She want's to be remembered for the music that she puts her all into and that isn't manufactured at all and i really don't see how it could be looked at as manufactured, It's being professional.
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Please. There a million girls that looks just as good if not better that would want to become an artist. No one cares what someone looks like when they are listening to them. It helps actresses, because you have to look at them. There is a reason why Katy Perry's music and Jessica Simpson's wasn't.
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If Katy Perry were ugly she wouldn't even exist in the industry. She knows she possesses the face and body and uses that to her advantage.
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
The artists who receive the most creative royalties are likely the less manufactured, but they are all manufactured to some extent. It is just that some artists are clearly put together by their label (Rihanna, Katy) while some work in conjunction with their label (Gaga, Beyonce).
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Katy has fought with her in label several occassions, and has resulted the truimphant in most of the cases (IKAG, ET, Peacock making the final cut, no VMA performance etc); and that alone, speaks for itself.
I agree with the statement that every mainstream artist is manufactured though, it's the truth.
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Originally posted by Allie
While I do think Katy sold herself out a little with this era, she is not a total manufactured label puppet. Like others have said, she writes and co-writes for herself and others, decides what she wants on her albums or to release. She left two other major record deals before Capitol because they didn't follow through with what she wanted to do.
Everyone knows she was a Christian artist before she decided to go pop. She decided to go pop on her own because she wanted too. Growing up her parents were strict fundies, so she never really got the chance to experience pop culture. Part of that is why she decided to change career paths. I remember she said the first time she heard a song by Queen (wasn't allowed to listen to it) it changed her entire perspective on things.
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You said everything I wanted to
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
If Katy Perry were ugly she wouldn't even exist in the industry. She knows she possesses the face and body and uses that to her advantage.
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Originally posted by EastCoastTM
How is Nicki manufactured when she writes all her music? Decides her own singles and such? |
Really? I defended her switch to pop but..... And her image seems very manufactured. She never had that in her mixtape days. But I think her changes were because SHE herself wants more pop success and wants to be a bigger celeb. I doubt Baby and Slim would care if she didn't sell 500K or if she went Platinum.
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Most teenager pop-rock/pop-punk bands or scene emo bands.
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Gurl.... Scene everything is stupid. They try and be different but they all end up wearing Hot-Topic/ Urban Planet clothes and listen to the same bands that sound the same.
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
If Katy Perry were ugly she wouldn't even exist in the industry. She knows she possesses the face and body and uses that to her advantage.
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If your English were better I would take you seariously
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Originally posted by Bubi
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Not sure if ironic...
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What's wrong with his English? 
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Originally posted by Bubi
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Is this real life..Or a teenage dream?
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Originally posted by Bubi
If your English were better I would take you seariously
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My english is fine, but can you explain what "seariously" means? And how about adding a punctuation mark at the end of your sentences?!?!
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Originally posted by EastCoastTM
How is Nicki manufactured when she writes all her music? Decides her own singles and such? |
Are you ****in slow??????
Her whole ****in image is manufactured, just bcuz she claims to write her own music dont mean ****. Taylor Swift writes her own music and she is manufactured all well.
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Vin's logic is a little flawed. Britney is seen as human because nobody outside of her fanbase and gays truly give a **** about her music. She's like the first reality star where she's more known for being a Pop Culture reference than anything that she has done career-wise. Beyonce is more known for her music, ****** movies and raping the television with all those damn commercials.... we know her as megastar because she keeps her private life private like any REAL celebrity should. The only reason you know Gaga is because she's a fame ***** looking for attention in EVERY thing that she does.
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Originally posted by EastCoastTM
How is Nicki manufactured when she writes all her music? Decides her own singles and such? |
Her image. Her change in sound just to make her accessible as a female rapper, etc. Nicki is one of the most manufactured new artists right now.
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Originally posted by EastCoastTM
How is Nicki manufactured when she writes all her music? Decides her own singles and such? |
Nicki is manufactured b/c as she has become more successful, she hasn't used that newfound power to put out the type of music that she used to make and that was truly her. She's become a full-on popstar instead b/c it's easier to get hits that way nowadays.
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