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Discussion: Do I have to be a gay rights activist ALL the time?
Member Since: 5/17/2010
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Do I have to be a gay rights activist ALL the time?
A few days ago, I was in class and the issue of gay marriage came up. The overwhelming majority of the class expressed their support of gay marriage equality and gay rights. Yet, there were still some individuals who were very well set against the idea of gay marriage. One individual said that he was raised by very religious parents and said he just didn't agree with that "lifestyle choice", another individual stated that he was tired of "the gay thing" being shoved down his throat and he was tired of talking about it. He then went into a silly tangent about gay people needing to be more discreet and not so "in you face" about their sexual orientation.
Mind you, none of those same people who were oh so supportive of gay folks really argued with the two individuals about their archaic views. Now I don't know any of my classmates' sexual orientation so I didn't really expect anyone to fly in on their liberal horse and argue with these individuals until they were blue in the face.
But, as a gay man, should I have stood up and argued with those two people? Do I owe it to myself and the rest of the gay community to defend my sexuality EVERY TIME some misinformed jackass disagrees with it? Am I coward for not speaking up at that moment?
And to the rest of you, do you speak up and protest whenever someone, whether in a workplace or classroom setting, shows a tinge of disagreement with homosexuality?

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Member Since: 12/9/2007
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This is a tricky question. On one hand, I respect everyone's rights to not express their views if they don't feel comfortable doing so (as seems to be the case with you). On the other hand, we as a community can't expect changes to be made if we don't stand up for equal rights. Granted, arguing about gay marriage in a high school classroom isn't going to make gay marriage legal.
I remember once in senior year in high school in my English class we were talking about homosexuality, and one guy said he didn't agree with it because he felt it was a choice, not something you're born with. In that case I immediately corrected the poor soul, as did the majority of the class.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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I would just settle on knowing that you're better than them.
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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Originally posted by GRADUAT10N
This is a tricky question. On one hand, I respect everyone's rights to not express their views if they don't feel comfortable doing so (as seems to be the case with you). On the other hand, we as a community can't expect changes to be made if we don't stand up for equal rights. Granted, arguing about gay marriage in a high school classroom isn't going to make gay marriage legal.
I remember once in senior year in high school in my English class we were talking about homosexuality, and one guy said he didn't agree with it because he felt it was a choice, not something you're born with. In that case I immediately corrected the poor soul, as did the majority of the class.
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It is tricky, I'm all for someone having their own views, but does someone have the right to be ignorant?
And how long do people really expect to stand behind religion for their opinions?
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Member Since: 12/9/2007
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Originally posted by ****y On Venus
It is tricky, I'm all for someone having their own views, but does someone have the right to be ignorant?
And how long do people really expect to stand behind religion for their opinions?
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Well you know what they always say: ignorance isn't an excuse. If you drive 60 mph in a 35 mph zone and say you didn't know, you'll still get a ticket. So yeah, I don't think it's healthy for society to have people so ignorant on the topic of sexuality spreading those views.
And sadly, people will cling to their religion and beliefs until the day they die. People will go their whole lives trying to prove their theory of how we should live to be the right way.
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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Originally posted by GRADUAT10N
Well you know what they always say: ignorance isn't an excuse. If you drive 60 mph in a 35 mph zone and say you didn't know, you'll still get a ticket. So yeah, I don't think it's healthy for society to have people so ignorant on the topic of sexuality spreading those views.
And sadly, people will cling to their religion and beliefs until the day they die. People will go their whole lives trying to prove their theory of how we should live to be the right way.
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Either way, I just wish I had the energy to argue with someone one whenever their ignorance starts to show, but I don't.
But after a while it grows tiresome having to argue about something you can't control.
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Member Since: 3/25/2011
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I went to a private Christian school all through elementary and high school (12 years). The notion of gay marriage was brought up all the time in class discussions and I would literally be the only one defending it. I would constantly be at ends with fellow classmates and often the teachers.
Getting into a fight with fanatic zealots will never get you anywhere with them – however, living your life freely, being an exemplary character, showing positive attributes etc…will. When they see that your life doesn’t match up with their expectations, their views will shift. That’s just been my experience.
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Member Since: 6/17/2011
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Originally posted by Eaten By Lions
I went to a private Christian school all through elementary and high school (12 years). The notion of gay marriage was brought up all the time in class discussions and I would literally be the only one defending it. I would constantly be at ends with fellow classmates and often the teachers.
Getting into a fight with fanatic zealots will never get you anywhere with them – however, living your life freely, being an exemplary character, showing positive attributes etc…will. When they see that your life doesn’t match up with their expectations, their views will shift. That’s just been my experience.
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 well said.
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Member Since: 4/26/2010
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If they're not being disrespectful I believe it is their right to have an opinion on the issue. Although I don't believe you can ever say it is wrong or how gay people should act, which your classmates were stating.
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Member Since: 10/21/2005
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I always want to bitch slap someone when they disapprove of homosexuality. It's like, howww do you know??? You are straight, I'm not. That's like me telling them being straight is a damn choice but I'm not so how would I know?
You don't know. Straight people just like to run their mouths and act like they know everything. Telling a homosexual he chose that life, is like telling yourself you know how a fox hunts for food.  You are not a fox, you are a human, how would you know how a fox fights for survival.
Some humans are just not bright I tell you... 
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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If you queens can discuss albums and vocals, get in here and discuss this.
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Member Since: 12/19/2010
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If you wanna cause some drama, start something.
If you aren't feeling feisty enough, be calm and don't do anything.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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I mean, like their religion's like that, they're against... so... IDK... isn't saying something that could offend to them like, for their religions beliefs, discrimination?
Maybe i'm wrong, tbh i don't have any idea of this...
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Member Since: 8/2/2010
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Originally posted by GRADUAT10N
This is a tricky question. On one hand, I respect everyone's rights to not express their views if they don't feel comfortable doing so (as seems to be the case with you). On the other hand, we as a community can't expect changes to be made if we don't stand up for equal rights. Granted, arguing about gay marriage in a high school classroom isn't going to make gay marriage legal.
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It really bothers me how some people don't take an active part in actually trying to change things for the gay community. I know that it is not always possible, because of your environment. But if you are living freely and open, I think it's important for everyone in the LGBT community to do their part in pushing for change and equal rights.
Yes, equal rights is something that should already be afforded to us, but at the same time one mustn't sit back and complain about the lack of change, if they are doing nothing to make these changes happen themselves.
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Member Since: 11/18/2010
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I'm not.... then again gay marriage is legal and has been for years in Canada. The only thing we can't really do here is donate blood.
But I still do it
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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I mean...I always speak up, as long as there is no possibility of violence occurring.
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