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News: 11-year-old boy takes his life due to extreme bullying
Member Since: 4/1/2011
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
Anyway, all parties are at fault to be honest. The parents, bullies, but especially the people who decide to take their own lives. I honestly have no remorse for children or people who have no kind of mental problems that may affect their decision making to take suicide as a way out of their problems.
His grandmother was a therapist for pete's sake. Like really gerl, and you didn't notice any signs?
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I honestly do not understand why so many of you all share this thought on suicide. It's disheartening to me.
In most cases, it is completely unfair to blame the suicide victim. Now obviously, usually the person is not a psychotic or anything, but often, they have a severe mental imbalance. Now, you all can roll your eyes at what I'm saying, but I have talked to many people. Most people who commit suicide do not really want to die; they just want the pain to go away. I really don't think it's possible for you to feel how suicide victims have felt like unless you were suicidal at one point, so for that reason, perhaps what I'm saying isn't 100% true. But my main point is that I'm disgusted with so many people in here saying it's the child's fault.
And I can also say that it can be extremely hard to catch the signs of a suicide. I know this from first hand experiences. It's easy to see in hind sight, but it's too late by then.
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
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It's so wrong to blame the victim. Regardless of what you think... have some respect for the deceased, god.
And especially seeing as their children too, who aren't quite at the level of maturity, it's especially sad to put the blame on them. The parents of the children, the parents of the bullies, the bullies, and the faculty deserve the chunk of the blame, in that general order.
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Member Since: 9/11/2011
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The world is sick, it's so sad
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
Posts: 38,919
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Originally posted by Sushi
I honestly do not understand why so many of you all share this thought on suicide. It's disheartening to me.
In most cases, it is completely unfair to blame the suicide victim. Now obviously, usually the person is not a psychotic or anything, but often, they have a severe mental imbalance. Now, you all can roll your eyes at what I'm saying, but I have talked to many people. Most people who commit suicide do not really want to die; they just want the pain to go away. I really don't think it's possible for you to feel how suicide victims have felt like unless you were suicidal at one point, so for that reason, perhaps what I'm saying isn't 100% true. But my main point is that I'm disgusted with so many people in here saying it's the child's fault.
And I can also say that it can be extremely hard to catch the signs of a suicide. I know this from first hand experiences. It's easy to see in hind sight, but it's too late by then.
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*Shrugs*
In the article he had clearly had a talk with his grandmother (who is a therapist) and told her if he had to go back to that school then he would kill himself. If that isn't a sign especially after all he had gone through then IDK what is.
And exactly, you don't know my story so you have no idea if I could relate to how he felt.
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Member Since: 4/1/2011
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Would you really expect an 11 year old to follow through with it? People (especially young people) say "i'm going to kill myself" and other crap all the time.
And yes, I do not know your story, but i just quoted your post since it was most recent. I could have quoted any one who expressed the idea that it's the suicides victim's fault
And you don't know the story of every individual person who has ever committed suicide, so you have no right to say they are to blame for their own death.
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Member Since: 7/18/2010
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My brother is 11. D:
What even?
11? Really?
Rip to him. Can't even imagine.
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Member Since: 7/18/2010
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The fact that he even knew what hanging was puzzles me.
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Member Since: 6/10/2010
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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RIP
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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I think because we (some of us) grew up in more urban areas or have been exposed to "real deal" bullying and taunting we just feel like these kids have it easy compared to what we may have seen or been through ourselves. Yes, I do hate that lives are being taken, but there comes a point when you have to look at it as a different situation. Is this child really being bullied enough to the point of death? Is being pushed down worth going to court over and ruining someones life forever? This is Earth honey, there are billions of people on it who have it way worse than a privileged white child living in suburbia with an iPhone at age 14. Where is your sympathy for the starving children in Africa? The rape victims in India? Or the thousands of people being bullied every single day in other parts of the world. People only get attention when they die, and as far as im concerned that's what they wanted all along, someone to know they were hurting. But they go about it the wrong way and lead us to heated debates like this one, where some people see through it and others continue to blame the "bullies" for a suicide which is ironic in itself. It comes down to self and self only, this boy is 14, he's never lost a job, he hasn't lost his spouse in a terrible accident, he hasn't lost his house, he hasn't been raped, he hasn't been through anything detrimental enough for us to treat him any different than the average person with internal self confidence issues, this babying mess is why these boys think they don't need to stand up for themselves. And if they don't tell anyone they are being bullied then how the **** is anyone suppose to know, that's another thing that irritates me.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by satellites™
I think because we (some of us) grew up in more urban areas or have been exposed to "real deal" bullying and taunting we just feel like these kids have it easy compared to what we may have seen or been through ourselves. Yes, I do hate that lives are being taken, but there comes a point when you have to look at it as a different situation. Is this child really being bullied enough to the point of death? Is being pushed down worth going to court over and ruining someones life forever? This is Earth honey, there are billions of people on it who have it way worse than a privileged white child living in suburbia with an iPhone at age 14. Where is your sympathy for the starving children in Africa? The rape victims in India? Or the thousand of people being bullied every single day in other parts of the world. People only get attention when they die, and as far as im concerned that's what they wanted all along, someone to know they were hurting. But they go about it the wrong way an lead us to heated debates like this one, where some people see through it and others continue to blame the "bullies" for a suicide which is ironic in itself. It comes down to self and self only, this boy is 14, he's never lost a job, he hasn't lost his spouse in a terrible accident, he hasn't lost his house, he hasn't been raped, he hasn't been through any detrimental enough for us to treat him any different than the average person with internal self confidence issues, this babying mess is why these boys think they don't need to stand up for themselves. And if they don't tell anyone they are being bullied then how the **** is anyone suppose to know, that's another thing that irritates me.
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Nothing else needs to be said after this.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by satellites™
I think because we (some of us) grew up in more urban areas or have been exposed to "real deal" bullying and taunting we just feel like these kids have it easy compared to what we may have seen or been through ourselves. Yes, I do hate that lives are being taken, but there comes a point when you have to look at it as a different situation. Is this child really being bullied enough to the point of death? Is being pushed down worth going to court over and ruining someones life forever? This is Earth honey, there are billions of people on it who have it way worse than a privileged white child living in suburbia with an iPhone at age 14. Where is your sympathy for the starving children in Africa? The rape victims in India? Or the thousand of people being bullied every single day in other parts of the world. People only get attention when they die, and as far as im concerned that's what they wanted all along, someone to know they were hurting. But they go about it the wrong way an lead us to heated debates like this one, where some people see through it and others continue to blame the "bullies" for a suicide which is ironic in itself. It comes down to self and self only, this boy is 14, he's never lost a job, he hasn't lost his spouse in a terrible accident, he hasn't lost his house, he hasn't been raped, he hasn't been through any detrimental enough for us to treat him any different than the average person with internal self confidence issues, this babying mess is why these boys think they don't need to stand up for themselves. And if they don't tell anyone they are being bullied then how the **** is anyone suppose to know, that's another thing that irritates me.
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this sums it all
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Member Since: 6/26/2010
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Originally posted by satellites™
I think because we (some of us) grew up in more urban areas or have been exposed to "real deal" bullying and taunting we just feel like these kids have it easy compared to what we may have seen or been through ourselves. Yes, I do hate that lives are being taken, but there comes a point when you have to look at it as a different situation. Is this child really being bullied enough to the point of death? Is being pushed down worth going to court over and ruining someones life forever? This is Earth honey, there are billions of people on it who have it way worse than a privileged white child living in suburbia with an iPhone at age 14. Where is your sympathy for the starving children in Africa? The rape victims in India? Or the thousand of people being bullied every single day in other parts of the world. People only get attention when they die, and as far as im concerned that's what they wanted all along, someone to know they were hurting. But they go about it the wrong way an lead us to heated debates like this one, where some people see through it and others continue to blame the "bullies" for a suicide which is ironic in itself. It comes down to self and self only, this boy is 14, he's never lost a job, he hasn't lost his spouse in a terrible accident, he hasn't lost his house, he hasn't been raped, he hasn't been through any detrimental enough for us to treat him any different than the average person with internal self confidence issues, this babying mess is why these boys think they don't need to stand up for themselves. And if they don't tell anyone they are being bullied then how the **** is anyone suppose to know, that's another thing that irritates me.
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Basically.
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