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Album: Lady Gaga - 'Born This Way' (#3)
Member Since: 11/16/2010
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Originally posted by Haus of Wilke$
10m is desirable for the album of the decade.
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Member Since: 5/27/2010
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Originally posted by Haus of Wilke$
10m is desirable for the album of the decade.
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How long are people going to get hung up on a heat-of-the-comment she made to fans at a concert? She said she was going to deliver the album of the decade, just for them. In the real world, it's best to keep expectations realistic. I always thought she'd be doing really well to have the album do 7-8m.
She had a massive first two eras, the biggest thing to hit pop since Britney, and she may basically end up matching what either would have sold alone, which is better than what most of those pop acts from the beginning of the decade were able to do on their third outings.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Referring to her as "he" is so 2009.
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Member Since: 4/30/2011
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I think Scheiße will/would do as good as Only Girl...
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Member Since: 8/15/2010
Posts: 8,808
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Originally posted by Symphonic
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
How long are people going to get hung up on a heat-of-the-comment she made to fans at a concert? She said she was going to deliver the album of the decade, just for them.
In the real world, it's best to keep expectations realistic. I always thought she'd be doing really well to have the album do 7-8m.
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Member Since: 12/9/2007
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Originally posted by Amaru
I partly agree. She should definitely release another dance track or two. MTN and Scheisse are perfect. But I feel that after a certain point, when you approach a 6th, and 7th single ... albums just stop selling. The fans already have their copies, and new fans will simply buy the singles. I think at some point a re-release is her best way to go.
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If she has strong enough material (and enough material) for a re-release then I am all for it. And I wholeheartedly agree with you that at a certain point people are not going to buy the album. At this point, if you like Lady GaGa you've probably bought the album/heard it already. (And we can't forget that the album leaked about a week before the street date). But she shouldn't go with a re-release for the sake of making a couple more bucks. Also, the BTW tour should help stabilize sales.
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Member Since: 6/17/2011
Posts: 16,910
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
For me what she's been doing wrong isn't about a bad iTunes update or a poor radio day. It's about the bigger picture: the entire look, sound & theme of the era is the problem. That big overarching problem is what's causing smaller ones, such as the bad iTunes update or poor radio day. And it's what's turning people off from her.
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I agree. I think the drastic change in the look, theme and aesthetics of this era is due to Gaga's refusal to incorporate the help of professionals in crafting a final product (video, televised performances etc). Her one-man-show delivery often feels messy, rushed or unfocused.
Ultimately, it only hurts Gaga's brand because it leaves the public feeling confused by her work rather than intrigued.
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Member Since: 8/15/2010
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I think I may take BTW off of my iPod.

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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by slimane12
I concentrate on enjoying her brilliantly improved vocals this era and listening to what is a brilliantly creative, daring and exciting pop album rather than endlessly over analysing a few minor mistakes.
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Member Since: 11/24/2009
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Originally posted by Graduation
I can endorse this. Whereas TF/TFM had an overarching theme, BTW has seemed rather sloppy. The whole "Born This Way" theme seems to have gone out the window as soon as the single started falling. Nothing about this era has been truly as memorable as anything she did with TF/TFM (single-wise and performances-wise). I honestly think the release of Judas really messed up the entire era. When that under achieved it through the whole schedule off. TEOG was rush released, making it her third single released before the album (who is she, Lil Wayne?) Of course hindsight is 20/20, but if we could go back in time, I think Y&I would have been a much better choice for 2nd single and would have lead to a more stable era from GaGa.
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She seems to have lost touch with what her fans - and the public - want from her. Which is scary b/c she kept harping about how she made this record for her fans, blah blah blah. At least if she hadn't said that, I could justify this era as her doing whatever the **** she wants, irrespective of what anyone wants or expect, fans included.
Her fans don't want her to patronize them by telling them it's ok that they were born a certain way.
Her fans could give two ***** about Judas.
Her fans don't want her to look ugly, to have spikes, to be in B&W all the time.
Her fans want to have fun and dance to great dance songs, videos and performances. They don't want a preachy self-help religious lesson told by a witch in spikes.
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Member Since: 3/18/2011
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I'm just saying, as long as radio is playing, "Party Rock Anthem," and "Sexy and I know it," Scheisse has a shot to be picked up by US radio.

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Member Since: 8/15/2010
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
She seems to have lost touch with what her fans - and the public - want from her. Which is scary b/c she kept harping about how she made this record for her fans, blah blah blah.
Her fans don't want her to patronize them by telling them it's ok that they were born a certain way.
Her fans could give two ***** about Judas.
Her fans don't want her to look ugly, to have spikes, to be in B&W all the time.
Her fans want to have fun and dance to great, fun songs, videos and performances. They don't want a preachy self-help religious lesson told by a witch in spikes.
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I may hate you Nicole but you summed up a 'turned' Gaga stan.
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Member Since: 8/18/2011
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Originally posted by Hyper_Intake
You bitch !!!!
I agree though.
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Oops. A little typing mistake
@Ra2 I think that would be better. I went to a club like 2 weeks ago and they played Hair, Americano, Scheisse and other songs from BTW. I expected Scheisse to be well-received, but Americano and Hair did more for the general public that night. I know that a club is not the entire world, but it just seems to me that Scheisse could be "not so big" in Latinamerica, while Americano can definitely do that job. Of course, I might be wrong, since this era has taught us that we cannot predict the success of the singles (Judas and Yoü and I being the prime examples).
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
She seems to have lost touch with what her fans - and the public - want from her. Which is scary b/c she kept harping about how she made this record for her fans, blah blah blah. At least if she hadn't said that, I could justify this era as her doing whatever the **** she wants, irrespective of what anyone wants or expect, fans included.
Her fans don't want her to patronize them by telling them it's ok that they were born a certain way.
Her fans could give two ***** about Judas.
Her fans don't want her to look ugly, to have spikes, to be in B&W all the time.
Her fans want to have fun and dance to great, fun songs, videos and performances. They don't want a preachy self-help religious lesson told by a witch in spikes.
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Why is this her highest selling album year yet then? I swear because she promotes a lot people have these theories that she's holding a gun to people's heads to buy her music. Christina was everywhere and no one bought Bionic.
...and please Nicole STOP making out that you are so kind of fan of gaga. You despise her.
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Member Since: 11/21/2010
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They wanted to sell 30\40 million albums. 
If Troy Carter wants, it can. 
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Member Since: 3/18/2011
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Originally posted by Lord Americano
Oops. A little typing mistake
@Ra2 I think that would be better. I went to a club like 2 weeks ago and they played Hair, Americano, Scheisse and other songs from BTW. I expected Scheisse to be well-received, but Americano and Hair did more for the general public that night. I know that a club is not the entire world, but it just seems to me that Scheisse could be "not so big" in Latinamerica, while Americano can definitely do that job. Of course, I might be wrong, since this era has taught us that we cannot predict the success of the singles (Judas and Yoü and I being the prime examples).
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I think you missed my point.
Alejandro was not as well received in the United States as her prior singles in regards to Airplay. Releasing Americano, Alejandro's lessor brother, would do nothing beneficial to her success in the United States. Therefore, I think releasing Americano in the United States would be a mistake. Scheisse has a much better potential in the US than does Americano.
Also, Hair will do well in any gay club (Idk if that was the kind of club you went to or not though).
It's a total drag queen anthem.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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She also said this era would test the TRUE fans and it has. She contradicts herself all the time (like we all do) she just has people like you jumping up her arse and over analysing when she does Nicole. She did the record she wanted to make and did it dam well.
Keep causing trouble in this forum though Nicole. Bring the mood down like you always do. It's not gaga's fault you are on welfare and still in your parents basement. Keep projecting those insecurities! Gaga took control of her life and made something of herself...you could do the same...if you were talented or had a work ethic.....the bitterness and aggression might get in the way at job interviews too!
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
For me what she's been doing wrong isn't about a bad iTunes update or a poor radio day. It's about the bigger picture: the entire look, sound & theme of the era is the problem. That big overarching problem is what's causing smaller ones, such as the bad iTunes update or poor radio day. And it's what's turning people off from her.
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Its only a "problem" if you want more of TF/TFM sound. It's a good thing if you like her new direction. Yes, she's going to lose fans who just want more poppy dance music. After BTW she'll probably change direction again and lose some fans, and gain others. Gaga will be churning fans her entire career, but at least it's not likely she'll be 35 years old and still trying to release stuff targeted to 19 year olds. Most pop stars try to stay popular by pretending to never grow up.. I don't see Gaga doing that.
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Member Since: 4/21/2011
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Originally posted by Oshiish
You know a hell of a lot better than that. Those remarks are left for the pressed and sex deprived(no xtina shade)
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Well, he's been clocked in SYG thread yesterday, let's hope we can clock that post too 
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by drewes
They wanted to sell 30\40 million albums. 
If Troy Carter wants, it can. 
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I'm sure that was a misquote. No one's sold that since forever.
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