That makes 2 of us

There are obviously people that know music beyond what's on the Hot 100 on ATRL. Not nearly as many as there used to be, mind you, but they exist, surely. But this thread alone should be proof that most ATRL members don't listen to a lot of music beyond the mainstream (and PJ Harvey's not all that non-mainstream, either). I used to claim a lack of diversity on those members' parts and used that as a slight against other members, but I realize now that it's what they want to listen to and I accept that. The only reason I brought it up with your post is because it's just a fact, not to shade the other members.

Reading comprehension is your friend!

Ah alright. Because my point was just that if she was as legendary as some people claimed her to be then more people would have/should have been aware of her, so everyone else should just tone it down with the slightly haughty comments. Didn't put that across too well I guess.

This ****ing thread

Not surprising.

who?

Not surprising. PJ Harvey is not mainstream and for people who's not into the kind of music she's putting out there, no way of finding out who she is or what her music was. It's like in a world of skaters celebrating the skills of Tony Hawk but completely a non-factor to others who doesn't do the sport.

If you're a music fan you need to know musicians in your basic language and their songs. If you are an illiterate you will post in this thread saying you don't know her either.

A mess on Jessie's part.

Precisely. I'm so tired of artists these days knowing nothing about music or its history. It's disgraceful.

I don't understand why some people here are shading Jessie for not knowing her, she was asked what she thought of PJ winning the Mercury prize and she answered honestly that she isn't familiar with her music. She didn't state it in a shady manner, like "oh I don't know who she is, so therefore she is irrelevant". I never fault anyone for not knowing an artist, so long as they don't have a condescending attitude about it, like not being well-known means you're worth nothing. That's only when I assume that the person is just plain ignorant about music.

But even I haven't been aware of PJ's existence for long. The only reason I know who she is is because I've watched and read numerous interviews of Florence Welch where she constantly cites PJ as one of her favorite artists and inspirations. Otherwise, I'd be just as clueless about her as most people on here.

I can actually understand people not knowing who Tori is, especially if they're particularly young. Tori's heyday was in the early and mid 90s, the last time when alternative music was the mainstream, and also the same era when most of the active ATRLers were born. She hasn't had the same impact in the 00s, so unless people on here were raised with her music, I don't think they'll have much of a chance to know who she is.

But you pretty much did kind of question it when you basically said if she's such an excellent musician why isn't she more popular. That's implying that popularity = talent and vice-versa, when that is so not the case most of the time, especially these days. Perhaps the reason she's not as popular as she deserves to be is because her music isn't meant to appeal to the masses. She certainly can't help that. But that doesn't mean she's had no impact whatsoever. Impact as an artist goes beyond selling a **** ton of records.

You're all misinformed, ignorant and disgustingly oblivious to the world around you.

DIAF.

How many English language-recording musicians are there? Too many to name. It's a little unfair to say that a music fan must know everyone who records in their language. No shade, but it's not like we're talking about someone not knowing who The Beatles are.