Originally posted by MonsterUK

Wow. I won't even bother posting my straight guy story now, you just Kanye'd everyone in here with that one.

Originally posted by ManDown

In middle school, I was best friends with this straight guy, only to find out that we both had some feelings for eachother. But we were both too scared to act on it. So, after several months of flirting on AOL messenger (he would NEVER in public, besides complimenting me ), our friendship ended. And then he told the school that I was some stalker *** that wanted in his pants. I ended up moving away the next year and didn't see him again. But he added me on Facebook last year, and I learned that he is a huge Gaga stan, only hangs out (and has sleepovers) with girls, and acts in plays. So basically, he is gayer than I could ever dream of being.

When I was younger, I had sex with a straight guy... A married straight guy. He wasn't much older than me, though. He rushed into the relationship, engagement, and marriage when he was like, 20. I was dumb enough to get involved in that mess. We fooled around several times, which he claimed was "an experiment", and he swore up and down that he wasn't gay or even bisexual. Well, I quickly lost interest and stopped talking to him, but he kept blowing up my phone, begging me not to tell anybody. So, one day when I was over at a friend's house, I thought that it would be funny to send an anonymous text from her phone to the guy's wife's phone (I made sure to save it in my phone when I was still seeing him, just in case). Well, the wife didn't find it so funny. They ended up getting into a huge fight, after which he confessed to cheating on her with a boy - an underage boy - and they ended up breaking up, as far as I know. That was the first and last time I ever went all the way with a straight guy, though. But I was dumb enough to be the "experiment" to a couple of other straight guys in the past.

You may also notice how several of ATRL's "straight" guys have disappeared. Well, you're welcome.

Originally posted by Midnight

Ha ha, let's clock the tea where the tea needs to be clocked.

Some time ago I had a threesome. One of the guys was really into it (well, they both were... this guy was just really enthusiastic about it) and I kind of stayed off to the side because threesomes were new me at the time. Anyway, I got pulled in eventually. The one who was really into it was a self proclaimed straight guy, but he was sucking dick like he's been doing so all his life. Anyway, after everything was done he said he had to leave because he had to work in the morning. The other guy texted him, asking if he'd want to get together again. His response: I really am straight. I have a girlfriend and we have a baby on the way, so I can't really keep on experimenting.

Straight my ass and don't have any damn baby on the way. I still can't believe he used that late ass experimenting excuse. Bitch, you were the one leading the cotdamn threesome. That wasn't an experiment. You knew exactly what the **** you were doing.

Why do these closet cases continue to put themselves through it?If you like dick, just admit it!

Originally posted by Patrick

So, sometimes you end up in a relationship with the gayest of all gay men, and sometimes that really gay man, as transparently homo as he is, becomes totally wrapped up in church culture, and sometimes this guy has some sort of crisis of faith and decides he's actually straight (even though he's been fooling around with boys since he was 15), and sometimes the pious *** breaks things off with you because he's going to give up the lifestyle and he's gonna find himself a good woman to settle down with, as Magical Sky Daddy would want him to do, and sometimes this guy is pretty ****ing charismatic and he convinces you that you should do the same, and you, being young and uncomfortable with your horrible case of same sex attraction, will agree that you should seek out counseling from some ridiculous church pastor who might mean well and truly believes he can get you on the path towards salvation, but is so clearly uncomfortable with the fact that he's in the same room as one of dem faggits, and sometimes you stick with the program for like two or three months until one day you're attending a church service and you realize the pastor is directing his sermon about impure love directly at you, and sometimes you have a realization that change isn't really possible in this situation and that, basically, God doesn't exist, so you give up on the conversion process and begin to move on with you life, and sometimes 8-12 months later the guy who started it all tries to contact you and he explains that he's still totally in love with you, even though he's still pretending that he is straight and he's actually convinced some naive girl to be his girlfriend, and it actually suits her fine cause she's sheltered, has no gaydar, and has conservative tendencies that render intimacy with her boyfriend unnecessary, and sometimes you're stupid enough to think that you were actually in love with the guy, so you're receptive to his love confession and the two you once again begin your romance despite the fact that he holds onto his for-appearances-only girlfriend for a few months, and sometimes he eventually ends things with her, and sometimes your on-again relationship with the guy carries on for another 8 or so months, and sometimes this one-time ashamed gay decides that he's no longer ashamed of his sexuality, so much so that he starts to become annoyingly flamboyant and is essentially the antithesis of everything he tried to be when he was a closeted church *** (a gay rebellion of sorts), and sometimes you suspect that he's probably not that interested in you anymore since he doesn't talk to you as much and he's been spending a lot of time with some newly acquired gay friends (mostly lesbians), and sometimes he'll call you up and decide that the two of you should take a break, and sometimes you realize that what he really wants is a breakup, but he wants you to be the one to end things so he doesn't have to feel like an asshole when he tells you that he's just not that into you at this point, so he says that the two of you should take a temporary break because YOU aren't comfortable with who YOU are (a homo), and he encourages you to take some time to find yourself, and you have to laugh because, after all, wasn't it HIS insecurity with HIS sexuality that ****ed things up the last time and didn't he have a "girlfriend" just 6 months ago?

Sometimes that happens, or so I've heard.

Originally posted by Patrick

So, sometimes you end up in a relationship with the gayest of all gay men, and sometimes that really gay man, as transparently homo as he is, becomes totally wrapped up in church culture, and sometimes this guy has some sort of crisis of faith and decides he's actually straight (even though he's been fooling around with boys since he was 15), and sometimes the pious *** breaks things off with you because he's going to give up the lifestyle and he's gonna find himself a good woman to settle down with, as Magical Sky Daddy would want him to do, and sometimes this guy is pretty ****ing charismatic and he convinces you that you should do the same, and you, being young and uncomfortable with your horrible case of same sex attraction, will agree that you should seek out counseling from some ridiculous church pastor who might mean well and truly believes he can get you on the path towards salvation, but is so clearly uncomfortable with the fact that he's in the same room as one of dem faggits, and sometimes you stick with the program for like two or three months until one day you're attending a church service and you realize the pastor is directing his sermon about impure love directly at you, and sometimes you have a realization that change isn't really possible in this situation and that, basically, God doesn't exist, so you give up on the conversion process and begin to move on with you life, and sometimes 8-12 months later the guy who started it all tries to contact you and he explains that he's still totally in love with you, even though he's still pretending that he is straight and he's actually convinced some naive girl to be his girlfriend, and it actually suits her fine cause she's sheltered, has no gaydar, and has conservative tendencies that render intimacy with her boyfriend unnecessary, and sometimes you're stupid enough to think that you were actually in love with the guy, so you're receptive to his love confession and the two you once again begin your romance despite the fact that he holds onto his for-appearances-only girlfriend for a few months, and sometimes he eventually ends things with her, and sometimes your on-again relationship with the guy carries on for another 8 or so months, and sometimes this one-time ashamed gay decides that he's no longer ashamed of his sexuality, so much so that he starts to become annoyingly flamboyant and is essentially the antithesis of everything he tried to be when he was a closeted church *** (a gay rebellion of sorts), and sometimes you suspect that he's probably not that interested in you anymore since he doesn't talk to you as much and he's been spending a lot of time with some newly acquired gay friends (mostly lesbians), and sometimes he'll call you up and decide that the two of you should take a break, and sometimes you realize that what he really wants is a breakup, but he wants you to be the one to end things so he doesn't have to feel like an asshole when he tells you that he's just not that into you at this point, so he says that the two of you should take a temporary break because YOU aren't comfortable with who YOU are (a homo), and he encourages you to take some time to find yourself, and you have to laugh because, after all, wasn't it HIS insecurity with HIS sexuality that ****ed things up the last time and didn't he have a "girlfriend" just 6 months ago?

Sometimes that happens, or so I've heard.

Originally posted by Patrick

So, sometimes you end up in a relationship with the gayest of all gay men, and sometimes that really gay man, as transparently homo as he is, becomes totally wrapped up in church culture, and sometimes this guy has some sort of crisis of faith and decides he's actually straight (even though he's been fooling around with boys since he was 15), and sometimes the pious *** breaks things off with you because he's going to give up the lifestyle and he's gonna find himself a good woman to settle down with, as Magical Sky Daddy would want him to do, and sometimes this guy is pretty ****ing charismatic and he convinces you that you should do the same, and you, being young and uncomfortable with your horrible case of same sex attraction, will agree that you should seek out counseling from some ridiculous church pastor who might mean well and truly believes he can get you on the path towards salvation, but is so clearly uncomfortable with the fact that he's in the same room as one of dem faggits, and sometimes you stick with the program for like two or three months until one day you're attending a church service and you realize the pastor is directing his sermon about impure love directly at you, and sometimes you have a realization that change isn't really possible in this situation and that, basically, God doesn't exist, so you give up on the conversion process and begin to move on with you life, and sometimes 8-12 months later the guy who started it all tries to contact you and he explains that he's still totally in love with you, even though he's still pretending that he is straight and he's actually convinced some naive girl to be his girlfriend, and it actually suits her fine cause she's sheltered, has no gaydar, and has conservative tendencies that render intimacy with her boyfriend unnecessary, and sometimes you're stupid enough to think that you were actually in love with the guy, so you're receptive to his love confession and the two you once again begin your romance despite the fact that he holds onto his for-appearances-only girlfriend for a few months, and sometimes he eventually ends things with her, and sometimes your on-again relationship with the guy carries on for another 8 or so months, and sometimes this one-time ashamed gay decides that he's no longer ashamed of his sexuality, so much so that he starts to become annoyingly flamboyant and is essentially the antithesis of everything he tried to be when he was a closeted church *** (a gay rebellion of sorts), and sometimes you suspect that he's probably not that interested in you anymore since he doesn't talk to you as much and he's been spending a lot of time with some newly acquired gay friends (mostly lesbians), and sometimes he'll call you up and decide that the two of you should take a break, and sometimes you realize that what he really wants is a breakup, but he wants you to be the one to end things so he doesn't have to feel like an asshole when he tells you that he's just not that into you at this point, so he says that the two of you should take a temporary break because YOU aren't comfortable with who YOU are (a homo), and he encourages you to take some time to find yourself, and you have to laugh because, after all, wasn't it HIS insecurity with HIS sexuality that ****ed things up the last time and didn't he have a "girlfriend" just 6 months ago?

Sometimes that happens, or so I've heard.

Originally posted by Patrick

So, sometimes you end up in a relationship with the gayest of all gay men, and sometimes that really gay man, as transparently homo as he is, becomes totally wrapped up in church culture, and sometimes this guy has some sort of crisis of faith and decides he's actually straight (even though he's been fooling around with boys since he was 15), and sometimes the pious *** breaks things off with you because he's going to give up the lifestyle and he's gonna find himself a good woman to settle down with, as Magical Sky Daddy would want him to do, and sometimes this guy is pretty ****ing charismatic and he convinces you that you should do the same, and you, being young and uncomfortable with your horrible case of same sex attraction, will agree that you should seek out counseling from some ridiculous church pastor who might mean well and truly believes he can get you on the path towards salvation, but is so clearly uncomfortable with the fact that he's in the same room as one of dem faggits, and sometimes you stick with the program for like two or three months until one day you're attending a church service and you realize the pastor is directing his sermon about impure love directly at you, and sometimes you have a realization that change isn't really possible in this situation and that, basically, God doesn't exist, so you give up on the conversion process and begin to move on with you life, and sometimes 8-12 months later the guy who started it all tries to contact you and he explains that he's still totally in love with you, even though he's still pretending that he is straight and he's actually convinced some naive girl to be his girlfriend, and it actually suits her fine cause she's sheltered, has no gaydar, and has conservative tendencies that render intimacy with her boyfriend unnecessary, and sometimes you're stupid enough to think that you were actually in love with the guy, so you're receptive to his love confession and the two you once again begin your romance despite the fact that he holds onto his for-appearances-only girlfriend for a few months, and sometimes he eventually ends things with her, and sometimes your on-again relationship with the guy carries on for another 8 or so months, and sometimes this one-time ashamed gay decides that he's no longer ashamed of his sexuality, so much so that he starts to become annoyingly flamboyant and is essentially the antithesis of everything he tried to be when he was a closeted church *** (a gay rebellion of sorts), and sometimes you suspect that he's probably not that interested in you anymore since he doesn't talk to you as much and he's been spending a lot of time with some newly acquired gay friends (mostly lesbians), and sometimes he'll call you up and decide that the two of you should take a break, and sometimes you realize that what he really wants is a breakup, but he wants you to be the one to end things so he doesn't have to feel like an asshole when he tells you that he's just not that into you at this point, so he says that the two of you should take a temporary break because YOU aren't comfortable with who YOU are (a homo), and he encourages you to take some time to find yourself, and you have to laugh because, after all, wasn't it HIS insecurity with HIS sexuality that ****ed things up the last time and didn't he have a "girlfriend" just 6 months ago?

Sometimes that happens, or so I've heard.

Originally posted by RainMan

I think being "gay" is the ability to love/have a relationship with another man, not just sex.

there are some dudes who just want to experiment with another guy but are in happy relationships with gurls. a lot of gay guys think these dudes are in denial but i think they are attracted to guys physically/sexually rather than emotionally. It would be dumb to admit to being gay when you have no interest in a homosexual realationship, and are in a relationship with a girl.

this would also explain how it is so ****ing easy to get gay sex an damn near impossible to find a gay relationship

Originally posted by Inverted

Being gay is not just the ability to love/have a relationship with a man. All being gay entails is being attracted to people of the same gender as you. If you're having sex with a "straight" guy, he's obviously not straight.

Wanting to be in a relationship with a male is psychological; you can stop yourself from being emotionally involved. There are plenty of straight guys who don't want to be in relationships with women and just have sex. How is that any different from a gay male who doesn't want a relationship with a make (and wants to have a relationship with a female because it's more "normal"?) Does that mean that those straight guys are not straight?

Originally posted by RainMan

But they are only interested in women.

I was talking about guys who have sex/relationships with women and sex with men on the down low. Everyone thinks they are in denial but what if they just see men in a sexual way and are otherwise only interested in a relationship with a woman.

But as always this is more about peoples individual preferences and sexuality so there is no real answers to this discussion.