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Chart Listings: iTunes Discussion Thread (2011)
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Originally posted by GaGaFan
I love that song so much.
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I think it's probably Dr. Luke's best work; a shame it was blocked. 
My favorite quote from a critical review of it:
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manufactured pop need not be a bad thing – if the manufacturing is good enough
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
Exactly.
California Gurls, Firework and probably E.T.>>>> BTW
If BTW had a colossal impact, i dont know what kinda of impact these had lol
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I think you guys are not understand the point,
Yes those songs sold more, but will they be remembered as much? I don't think so. Some of those songs came and went, Cali gurls yes and firework, but E.T? Hell naw
They sold more than BTW but they didn't have the same impact as it, its what makes Lady Gaga stand out from the other girls. Its not the success, its the experience.
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
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Why have I not known about this GoogleTrends feature before!?!?
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Originally posted by Oshiish
I think you guys are not understand the point,
Yes those songs sold more, but will they be remembered as much? I don't think so to be honest. Some of those songs came and went, Cali gurls yes and firework, but E.T? Hell naw
They sold more than BTW but they didn't have the same impact as it, its what makes Lady Gaga stand out from the other girls. Its not the success, its the experience.
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That is exactly what im talking about, my friend.
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
Nop, this is like Britney's "Me Against The Music", was a complete success but no one really care about it, besides the fact that Madonna in the song.
Forgettable.
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In what way is this like MATM? MATM was hardly a defining song for Britney. Hell, I don't even know what album that song was on. As I said BTW is the song that defines this era for her, so it will be remembered for that reason.
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Originally posted by highwind44029
People still underestimating Katy Perry and Capitol.  Like hell they'd let an average song block their masterpiece. |
Last Friday Night is an average song... so many like it, like "Just Dance", "Please Don't Stop the Music" and so on.
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Originally posted by benzene_dream
In what way is this like MATM? MATM was hardly a defining song for Britney. Hell, I don't even know what album that song was on. As I said BTW is the song that defines this era for her, so it will be remembered for that reason.
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You don't know because it was overshadowed by the more successful, more defining and generally superior "Toxic."
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Originally posted by Oshiish
I think you guys are not understand the point,
Yes those songs sold more, but will they be remembered as much? I don't think so. Some of those songs came and went, Cali gurls yes and firework, but E.T? Hell naw
They sold more than BTW but they didn't have the same impact as it, its what makes Lady Gaga stand out from the other girls. Its not the success, its the experience.
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But how do you measure impact?. Impact is very subjective. In my experience Firework has had a huuge impact, whenever I go to a club, the gays scream to Firework as much as to BTW
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Originally posted by benzene_dream
In what way is this like MATM? MATM was hardly a defining song for Britney. Hell, I don't even know what album that song was on. As I said BTW is the song that defines this era for her, so it will be remembered for that reason.
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And BTW is one for Gaga?
You guys are confusing the success & impact of the song with the song's HYPE. That was something that has everyone curious, everyone was waiting for this "new anthem", but the song itself remembered in the future? "No man"
As Robyn said himself
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Was the most anticipated music event in years.
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Do you think it has the numbers/success, etc to be considered as such?
She failed, period.
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Originally posted by Chemist
But how do you measure impact?. Impact is very subjective. In my experience Firework has had a huuge impact, whenever I go to a club, the gays scream to Firework as much as to BTW
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Well no "true" way to measure such thing and specially so early on. We will see when the awards come in and praise in the future. Of-course this is only my opinion...
Anyways, don't want to clog this thread with this much more
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Originally posted by benzene_dream
I said it months ago and I'll say it again: Born This Way will be remembered as one of Gaga's signature songs and everyone will simply have to deal.  |
By whom? By her fans? Maybe. But by the general populace? Considering the song has pretty much already dropped off the cultural radar, I would say that it doesn't look promising.
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Originally posted by supaspaz
By whom? By her fans? Maybe. But by the general populace? Considering the song has pretty much already dropped off the cultural radar, I would say that it doesn't look promising.
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
And BTW is one for Gaga?
You guys are confusing the success & impact of the song with the song's HYPE. That was something that has everyone curious, everyone was waiting for this "new anthem", but the song itself remembered in the future? "No man"
As Robyn said himself
Do you think it has the numbers to be considered as such?
She failed, period.
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And you're confusing success and numbers (which the song has, anyway, though not on par with her most successful singles) with recognition. A song does not need to be the most successful song ever or even the most successful (charts/sales) song of that person's career to be remembered, it just needs to leave some sort of last impression (positive or negative) for one reason or another. I can provide several examples of songs that are remembered despite not being the biggest chart hits for that artist, if I must.
I will repeat it again: the song will be remembered because it is the defining song of this era for her. If Gaga has a short career, it'll be the song that marked the beginning of the end. If she has a long career, it'll be the song that moved her away from pure electropop. Either way, it's always going to be regarded as an important part of her discography.
But I'll end this here, because we are officially off-topic.
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Originally posted by supaspaz
By whom? By her fans? Maybe. But by the general populace? Considering the song has pretty much already dropped off the cultural radar, I would say that it doesn't look promising.
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The most anticipated song in years not being played after just 3 - 4 months? Impossible
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
And BTW is one for Gaga?
You guys are confusing the success & impact of the song with the song's HYPE. That was something that has everyone curious, everyone was waiting for this "new anthem", but the song itself remembered in the future? "No man"
As Robyn said himself
Do you think it has the numbers/success, etc to be considered as such?
She failed, period.
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If it was just something that had everyone curious it would fall off the charts just like Judas. the song is still no. 30 on pop radio and it's still being played everywhere (Z100 are actually playing it more than the Edge currently)
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What's going on in here? Katy vs. GaGa or GaGa vs. GaGa
This iTUNES thread is going out of track, and if Ace saw this, it will be immediately closed 
So guys, just stop it or go somewhere else to discuss, not here !!!
Btw, Dirt Rock Anthem is about to pass The Edge of Glory on iTunes.....
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
Oh, please. Everyone here acts like Born This Way didn't sell almost 500,000 in 3 days and follow it with a bigger week. Everyone acts like it didn't top iTunes in every country. Everyone acts like it didn't completely overshadow all of the other music that was out and obliterate all the other songs on the Hot 100 upon release. Everyone forgets that it completely obliterated Hold It Against Me's spin records set just a few weeks before. Add that to the list of controversy is started. Everyone forgets that all everyone did for weeks after that song came out was complain about how she ripped off Madonna or this and that about the song.
Like it or not, it completely stole the attention of the music scene, for better or for worse, immediately upon release. Say all you want about her fans being the only ones buying it or about the song sucking, but it completely dwarfed the other releases and was the most anticipated music event in years.
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when people thinks of gaga the first thing that comes to their head is "po-po-poker face" or "ra ra o ma ma, roma roma ma ah"
that's the answer
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Originally posted by supaspaz
By whom? By her fans? Maybe. But by the general populace? Considering the song has pretty much already dropped off the cultural radar, I would say that it doesn't look promising.
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"Cultural radar" because she isn't seen performing it in the US?
Asia is in all time high on Lady gaga as we speak, Weird Al just released "Perform This Way" which is a parody of Born this Way(which he just performed on the view). To say its virtually off the radar is false.
Perform This Way
(on Itunes now, gogo buy!)
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Originally posted by Oshiish
"Cultural radar" because she isn't seen performing it in the US?
Asia is in all time high on Lady gaga as we speak, Weird Al just released "Perform This Way" which is a parody of Born this Way(which he just performed on the view). To say its virtually off the radar is false.
Perform This Way
(on Itunes now, gogo buy!)
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Haha yeah having such kind of discussion on the day a cover of the song was performed on a huge show is kind of ironic. back on topic:
56. Born This Way (single)
album up to no. 12
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
The most anticipated song in years not being played after just 3 - 4 months? Impossible
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#85
Party In the U.S.A.
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