Album: Lady Gaga - 'Born This Way' (#2) - Page 136

MrPeanut

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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

So here comes the page-long essay, moments after I decried someone for posting page-long essays. You probably don't give a ****, but I needed to say it and I wanted to say it in this thread. This is my Celestial moment, minus the self-contradicting anger.

The problem with BTW stems from Gaga herself. For better or worse, Gaga is the only major popstar whose music actually comes from her and reflects who she is. Since the release of the BTW single, people have said I'm being too hard on her, or that I'm unnecessarily negative. But based on everything Gaga was saying and doing since early 2010 ("Oh Little Monsters, it's ok that you're gay b/c God made you this way and I too was bullied but look at me now!!!!"), I knew she was gearing up to jump the shark. I didn't like who she'd become, and I sensed that her music would suffer directly as a result of that. I hoped I would end up being wrong, so I stuck around for a whole year, but I should have known better.

To be more specific, this problem with Gaga (and with BTW since, as I said, she and her music are one and the same) and the reason I can't stan for her anymore, is that the album isn't really pop. It acts like it's above pop. It's not catchy, or fun, or have huge killer hooks that make the whole world want to just dance. This is a problem for me because the first thing Gaga epicly declared when she burst onto the music scene was "POP MUSIC WILL NEVER BE LOW BROW." Did "never" mean less than 3 years? What happened to that girl? What happened to her sense of fun? Why, after such a bold declaration, is she trying to move away from pop instead of raising the bar within the pop genre? I won't even get into her now-off putting gimmicks. I said paragraph, not book.

Gaga can act like she's totally unpredictable all she wants, but she's become anything but. I told Perez last fall that based simply on her interviews and videos, BTW was gearing up to be a self-indulgent, fun-free, preachy, bloated mess. At the time he didn't respond, but the other day he told me that he met up with her, remembered my comment, and told her that people miss her former sense of fun, charm and playfulness. He wanted to put it into her consciousness and make sure she's at least aware. So as a fan I've done my part. But I can't act like some other fanbases, and keep clinging to her simply because I'm attached to her. I can't act like those who insist "Godney" is still exciting, when she now offers nothing more than some Ke$ha-lite beats expertly engineered by her fancy team. Or that "Beysus" has an epic new single sooo much better than the demo, when it's actually another sampled mess and the most horrendous aural assault since I can't remember when. Try as I may, I can't be passionate about Lady Gaga anymore and I have to be honest instead of pretending - I was born this way after all and Gaga would want me to be true to myself and honor my e-vomit

. Deep down though, I'll always have a spot for her and root for her, since I can't totally erase the last 3 years from consciousness and act like she didn't have a huge effect on me.

No.

Kunt

Hopefully you'll honor your "e-vomit" by posting these thoughts on twitter, Nicole.

Venus

TEH QUEEN NICOLE IS BACK

MusicTalker

I think she's still fun though. Marry the Night, Americano, Bad Kids, Highway Unicorn...? ScheiBe & Governmsnt Hooker have a very underlying sense of humor to them.

Nii.

Quote:

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

So here comes the page-long essay, moments after I decried someone for posting page-long essays. You probably don't give a ****, but I needed to say it and I wanted to say it in this thread. This is my Celestial moment, minus the self-contradicting anger. `

The problem with BTW stems from Gaga herself. For better or worse, Gaga is the only major popstar whose music actually comes from her and reflects who she is. Since the release of the BTW single, people have said I'm being too hard on her, or that I'm unnecessarily negative. But based on everything Gaga was saying and doing since early 2010 ("Oh Little Monsters, it's ok that you're gay b/c God made you this way and I too was bullied but look at me now!!!!"), I knew she was gearing up to jump the shark. I didn't like who she'd become, and I sensed that her music would suffer directly as a result of that. I hoped I would end up being wrong, so I stuck around for a whole year, but I should have known better.

To be more specific, this problem with Gaga (and with BTW since, as I said, she and her music are one and the same) and the reason I can't stan for her anymore, is that the album isn't really pop. It acts like it's above pop. It's not catchy, or fun, or have huge killer hooks that make the whole world want to just dance. This is a problem for me because the first thing Gaga epicly declared when she burst onto the music scene was "POP MUSIC WILL NEVER BE LOW BROW." Did "never" mean less than 3 years? What happened to that girl? What happened to her sense of fun? Why, after such a bold declaration, is she trying to move away from pop instead of raising the bar within the pop genre? I won't even get into her now-off putting gimmicks. I said page-long essay, not book.

Gaga can act like she's totally unpredictable all she wants, but she's become anything but. I told Perez last fall that based simply on her interviews and videos, BTW was gearing up to be a self-indulgent, fun-free, preachy, bloated mess. At the time he didn't respond, but the other day he told me that he met up with her, remembered my comment, and told her that people miss her former sense of fun, charm and playfulness. He wanted to put it into her consciousness and make sure she's at least aware. So as a fan I've done my part. But I can't act like some other fanbases, and keep clinging to her simply because I'm attached to her. I can't act like those who insist "Godney" is still exciting, when she now offers nothing more than some Ke$ha-lite beats expertly engineered by her fancy team. Or that "Beysus" has an epic new single sooo much better than the demo, when it's actually another sampled mess and the most horrendous aural assault since I can't remember when. Try as I may, I can't be passionate about Lady Gaga anymore and I have to be honest instead of pretending - I was born this way after all and Gaga would want me to be true to myself and honor my e-vomit

. Deep down though, I'll always have a spot for her and root for her, since I can't totally erase the last 3 years from consciousness and act like she didn't have a huge effect on me.

Goodbye, Nicole.

We shall miss you.

Fadicuss

Quote:

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

So here comes the page-long essay, moments after I decried someone for posting page-long essays. You probably don't give a ****, but I needed to say it and I wanted to say it in this thread. This is my Celestial moment, minus the self-contradicting anger.

The problem with BTW stems from Gaga herself. For better or worse, Gaga is the only major popstar whose music actually comes from her and reflects who she is. Since the release of the BTW single, people have said I'm being too hard on her, or that I'm unnecessarily negative. But based on everything Gaga was saying and doing since early 2010 ("Oh Little Monsters, it's ok that you're gay b/c God made you this way and I too was bullied but look at me now!!!!"), I knew she was gearing up to jump the shark. I didn't like who she'd become, and I sensed that her music would suffer directly as a result of that. I hoped I would end up being wrong, so I stuck around for a whole year, but I should have known better.

To be more specific, this problem with Gaga (and with BTW since, as I said, she and her music are one and the same) and the reason I can't stan for her anymore, is that the album isn't really pop. It acts like it's above pop. It's not catchy, or fun, or have huge killer hooks that make the whole world want to just dance. This is a problem for me because the first thing Gaga epicly declared when she burst onto the music scene was "POP MUSIC WILL NEVER BE LOW BROW." Did "never" mean less than 3 years? What happened to that girl? What happened to her sense of fun? Why, after such a bold declaration, is she trying to move away from pop instead of raising the bar within the pop genre? I won't even get into her now-off putting gimmicks. I said page-long essay, not book.

Gaga can act like she's totally unpredictable all she wants, but she's become anything but. I told Perez last fall that based simply on her interviews and videos, BTW was gearing up to be a self-indulgent, fun-free, preachy, bloated mess. At the time he didn't respond, but the other day he told me that he met up with her, remembered my comment, and told her that people miss her former sense of fun, charm and playfulness. He wanted to put it into her consciousness and make sure she's at least aware. So as a fan I've done my part. But I can't act like some other fanbases, and keep clinging to her simply because I'm attached to her. I can't act like those who insist "Godney" is still exciting, when she now offers nothing more than some Ke$ha-lite beats expertly engineered by her fancy team. Or that "Beysus" has an epic new single sooo much better than the demo, when it's actually another sampled mess and the most horrendous aural assault since I can't remember when. Try as I may, I can't be passionate about Lady Gaga anymore and I have to be honest instead of pretending - I was born this way after all and Gaga would want me to be true to myself and honor my e-vomit

. Deep down though, I'll always have a spot for her and root for her, since I can't totally erase the last 3 years from consciousness and act like she didn't have a huge effect on me.

I feel that BTW is such a step-up from The Fame and TFM. Nicole - I have to disagree with you there. The album has so many different styles and really different then what is played all over radios right now. I don't care that it's no "commercial" or "pure fun pop" - I'm not here for that over and over again. This album is so great and I'm confident she will make it work.

But, I'll miss you as a Gaga fan

BadBitch

Quote:

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

So here comes the page-long essay, moments after I decried someone for posting page-long essays. You probably don't give a ****, but I needed to say it and I wanted to say it in this thread. This is my Celestial moment, minus the self-contradicting anger.

The problem with BTW stems from Gaga herself. For better or worse, Gaga is the only major popstar whose music actually comes from her and reflects who she is. Since the release of the BTW single, people have said I'm being too hard on her, or that I'm unnecessarily negative. But based on everything Gaga was saying and doing since early 2010 ("Oh Little Monsters, it's ok that you're gay b/c God made you this way and I too was bullied but look at me now!!!!"), I knew she was gearing up to jump the shark. I didn't like who she'd become, and I sensed that her music would suffer directly as a result of that. I hoped I would end up being wrong, so I stuck around for a whole year, but I should have known better.

To be more specific, this problem with Gaga (and with BTW since, as I said, she and her music are one and the same) and the reason I can't stan for her anymore, is that the album isn't really pop. It acts like it's above pop. It's not catchy, or fun, or have huge killer hooks that make the whole world want to just dance. This is a problem for me because the first thing Gaga epicly declared when she burst onto the music scene was "POP MUSIC WILL NEVER BE LOW BROW." Did "never" mean less than 3 years? What happened to that girl? What happened to her sense of fun? Why, after such a bold declaration, is she trying to move away from pop instead of raising the bar within the pop genre? I won't even get into her now-off putting gimmicks. I said page-long essay, not book.

Gaga can act like she's totally unpredictable all she wants, but she's become anything but. I told Perez last fall that based simply on her interviews and videos, BTW was gearing up to be a self-indulgent, fun-free, preachy, bloated mess. At the time he didn't respond, but the other day he told me that he met up with her, remembered my comment, and told her that people miss her former sense of fun, charm and playfulness. He wanted to put it into her consciousness and make sure she's at least aware. So as a fan I've done my part. But I can't act like some other fanbases, and keep clinging to her simply because I'm attached to her. I can't act like those who insist "Godney" is still exciting, when she now offers nothing more than some Ke$ha-lite beats expertly engineered by her fancy team. Or that "Beysus" has an epic new single sooo much better than the demo, when it's actually another sampled mess and the most horrendous aural assault since I can't remember when. Try as I may, I can't be passionate about Lady Gaga anymore and I have to be honest instead of pretending - I was born this way after all and Gaga would want me to be true to myself and honor my e-vomit

. Deep down though, I'll always have a spot for her and root for her, since I can't totally erase the last 3 years from consciousness and act like she didn't have a huge effect on me.

but

At least you're being honest with yourself.

astronaut

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Originally posted by MusicTalker

I think she's still fun though. Marry the Night, Americano, Bad Kids, Highway Unicorn...? ScheiBe & Governmsnt Hooker have a very underlying sense of humor to them.

Yeah, she's still fun. Judas video, too.

Chris191

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Originally posted by Fadicuss

I feel that BTW is such a step-up from The Fame and TFM. Nicole - I have to disagree with you there. The album has so many different styles and really different then what is played all over radios right now. I don't care that it's no "commercial" or "pure fun pop" - I'm not here for that over and over again. This album is so great and I'm confident she will make it work.

But, I'll miss you as a Gaga fan

This

Navin

I would say Scheibe is one of the funniest songs of her career now that we have the lyrics.

Dancehall

The 'ew' in Judas and the 'chicas' in Americano are quite fun.

MusicTalker

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Originally posted by astronaut.

Yeah, she's still fun. Judas video, too.

That video's not fun. Her last fun video was Telephone, & I don't see us getting another fun video until a song like Marry the Night or Americano is released.

Sammi

Quote:

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

So here comes the page-long essay, moments after I decried someone for posting page-long essays. You probably don't give a ****, but I needed to say it and I wanted to say it in this thread. This is my Celestial moment, minus the self-contradicting anger.

The problem with BTW stems from Gaga herself. For better or worse, Gaga is the only major popstar whose music actually comes from her and reflects who she is. Since the release of the BTW single, people have said I'm being too hard on her, or that I'm unnecessarily negative. But based on everything Gaga was saying and doing since early 2010 ("Oh Little Monsters, it's ok that you're gay b/c God made you this way and I too was bullied but look at me now!!!!"), I knew she was gearing up to jump the shark. I didn't like who she'd become, and I sensed that her music would suffer directly as a result of that. I hoped I would end up being wrong, so I stuck around for a whole year, but I should have known better.

To be more specific, this problem with Gaga (and with BTW since, as I said, she and her music are one and the same) and the reason I can't stan for her anymore, is that the album isn't really pop. It acts like it's above pop. It's not catchy, or fun, or have huge killer hooks that make the whole world want to just dance. This is a problem for me because the first thing Gaga epicly declared when she burst onto the music scene was "POP MUSIC WILL NEVER BE LOW BROW." Did "never" mean less than 3 years? What happened to that girl? What happened to her sense of fun? Why, after such a bold declaration, is she trying to move away from pop instead of raising the bar within the pop genre? I won't even get into her now-off putting gimmicks. I said page-long essay, not book.

Gaga can act like she's totally unpredictable all she wants, but she's become anything but. I told Perez last fall that based simply on her interviews and videos, BTW was gearing up to be a self-indulgent, fun-free, preachy, bloated mess. At the time he didn't respond, but the other day he told me that he met up with her, remembered my comment, and told her that people miss her former sense of fun, charm and playfulness. He wanted to put it into her consciousness and make sure she's at least aware. So as a fan I've done my part. But I can't act like some other fanbases, and keep clinging to her simply because I'm attached to her. I can't act like those who insist "Godney" is still exciting, when she now offers nothing more than some Ke$ha-lite beats expertly engineered by her fancy team. Or that "Beysus" has an epic new single sooo much better than the demo, when it's actually another sampled mess and the most horrendous aural assault since I can't remember when. Try as I may, I can't be passionate about Lady Gaga anymore and I have to be honest instead of pretending - I was born this way after all and Gaga would want me to be true to myself and honor my e-vomit

. Deep down though, I'll always have a spot for her and root for her, since I can't totally erase the last 3 years from consciousness and act like she didn't have a huge effect on me.

Born This Way is an amazing album,her best yet (and you know that I don't like Gaga that much) so I'm seriously shocked at this post of yours. I miss you on twitter.

Queen Bea.

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Originally posted by Dancehall Queen

The 'ew' in Judas and the 'chicas' in Americano are quite fun.

The papito in GH...in fact GH in general is a fun song, it's hilarious.

MrPeanut

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Originally posted by MusicTalker

I think she's still fun though. Marry the Night, Americano, Bad Kids, Highway Unicorn...? ScheiBe & Governmsnt Hooker have a very underlying sense of humor to them.

She is still very fun in a kitschy way. This is lost on a lot of people, though.

Navin

Someone on IMDB just said Born This Way is 2011's Bionic.
I dont even wanna bother dragging his dumb ass.

This is the post if you wanna read

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0461498/board/flat/182905761

jcsfreebitch

Quote:

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

So here comes the page-long essay, moments after I decried someone for posting page-long essays. You probably don't give a ****, but I needed to say it and I wanted to say it in this thread. This is my Celestial moment, minus the self-contradicting anger.

The problem with BTW stems from Gaga herself. For better or worse, Gaga is the only major popstar whose music actually comes from her and reflects who she is. Since the release of the BTW single, people have said I'm being too hard on her, or that I'm unnecessarily negative. But based on everything Gaga was saying and doing since early 2010 ("Oh Little Monsters, it's ok that you're gay b/c God made you this way and I too was bullied but look at me now!!!!"), I knew she was gearing up to jump the shark. I didn't like who she'd become, and I sensed that her music would suffer directly as a result of that. I hoped I would end up being wrong, so I stuck around for a whole year, but I should have known better.

To be more specific, this problem with Gaga (and with BTW since, as I said, she and her music are one and the same) and the reason I can't stan for her anymore, is that the album isn't really pop. It acts like it's above pop. It's not catchy, or fun, or have huge killer hooks that make the whole world want to just dance. This is a problem for me because the first thing Gaga epicly declared when she burst onto the music scene was "POP MUSIC WILL NEVER BE LOW BROW." Did "never" mean less than 3 years? What happened to that girl? What happened to her sense of fun? Why, after such a bold declaration, is she trying to move away from pop instead of raising the bar within the pop genre? I won't even get into her now-off putting gimmicks. I said page-long essay, not book.

Gaga can act like she's totally unpredictable all she wants, but she's become anything but. I told Perez last fall that based simply on her interviews and videos, BTW was gearing up to be a self-indulgent, fun-free, preachy, bloated mess. At the time he didn't respond, but the other day he told me that he met up with her, remembered my comment, and told her that people miss her former sense of fun, charm and playfulness. He wanted to put it into her consciousness and make sure she's at least aware. So as a fan I've done my part. But I can't act like some other fanbases, and keep clinging to her simply because I'm attached to her. I can't act like those who insist "Godney" is still exciting, when she now offers nothing more than some Ke$ha-lite beats expertly engineered by her fancy team. Or that "Beysus" has an epic new single sooo much better than the demo, when it's actually another sampled mess and the most horrendous aural assault since I can't remember when. Try as I may, I can't be passionate about Lady Gaga anymore and I have to be honest instead of pretending - I was born this way after all and Gaga would want me to be true to myself and honor my e-vomit

. Deep down though, I'll always have a spot for her and root for her, since I can't totally erase the last 3 years from consciousness and act like she didn't have a huge effect on me.

So you basically want her to go back to generic pop?

Mavik

I'm sorry Nicole, but I totally disagree with you. IMO, her music is still catchy as hell, fun and I'd dance to it all night. I'm not here for another Britney Spears...

Relative

I can understand being tired of her image now, especially all the gimmicks that come with it. But IMO the music itself is a major step in the right direction. Although, I'll honestly say I was never a big pop listener before Gaga and still don't own any other pop albums besides TF(M), so, for me I'd rather her move away from "fun, catchy pop" than towards it.

But different strokes for different folks. At least Nicole is honest.

astronaut

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Originally posted by MusicTalker

That videos not fun. Her last fun video was Telephone, & I don't see us getting another fun video until a song like Marry the Night or Americano is released.

How is Judas not fun?

It's extremely over-the-top, & the concept and themes are fun, too. Like the disciples being a biker gang.