Originally posted by Monroe

Do you honestly think BTW is going to sell another 2-3+ million copies to reach the sales of Bad Romance, Poker Face and Just Dance? It has likely sold the bulk of it's final total by now. It being out longer won't do that much for it's final total.

Judas will struggle to pass 1 million but it will likely get there. I don't see it hitting the 2 million mark though, or at least not anytime soon. I don't think Edge Of Glory will perform that much better personally. It's obvious that Gaga isn't going to live up to TF(M) era in terms of singles success. I can't at all the fans saying it's because the song is 'bad' and 'it got old fast' when they were wetting themselves and calling it the best song ever not even two or so weeks ago.

The answer is that Gaga is in the second phase of her career and she will likely never live up to the height she had with her debut era. That's not a bad thing it's just truth. Don't expect all of her singles to go #1, don't expect all of her singles to sell 6 million copies, and so on and so forth. It's a diminished return and it's because interest has fallen from the previous level hence the smaller outcome. It's not because it's controversial, it's not because radio didn't give it a chance, and it's not because no one knew it was a single. It's because of the lower level of interest for Gaga and her music.

Accept that Gaga is at a different point of her career and understand that a lower top ten position on the Hot 100 chart isn't the end of the world. Learn that her first era was the exception and not the rule even in regards to Gaga herself.

Originally posted by Monroe

My 'personal thoughts' stem from the fact that Edge is already performing worse then Judas was after it's release. Judas was #1 for at least 4 days on iTunes. Edge spent one day at #1 and has decreased nearly 20% from where it was earlier this day alone (a drop from 96 to 81 in pop bars shows this). What does that tell you about it's sales hold up?

Originally posted by Monroe

The song has way since peaked. When the album comes out the song will likely drop as people will (hopefully) be buying the album instead leading to weaker and even negative sales for her previous singles as buyers use the 'complete my purchase' options on iTunes. Ultimately I guess we will see by the end of this year what BTW's total ends up selling, but my bet is it won't be selling on pace with Poker Face or Just Dance and likely not Bad Romance either.



Sales outside the top ten are much less than the sales within them.



My 'personal thoughts' stem from the fact that Edge is already performing worse then Judas was after it's release. Judas was #1 for at least 4 days on iTunes. Edge spent one day at #1 and has decreased nearly 20% from where it was earlier this day alone (a drop from 96 to 81 in pop bars shows this). What does that tell you about it's sales hold up?

Originally posted by longjohn9898

It's not generic sounding and just the mention of the name "Judas" (or even "Jesus"), even though the song in itself is not really offensive, will prevent many stations from playing the song as much as they normally would. The rush release due to the leak caused the single to peak lower than it would have the first week, so it's peak would have been higher had it not leaked, but other than that the leak does not affect subsequent radio plays and sales. Most people only look at peaks nowadays, which is not usually indicative of its performance, but in this case Judas has not performed very well on the charts. In other cases, a song that debuts at #1 and drops significantly afterwards will be viewed in history as more successful than a song that peaks at #2 and stays there forever.

Originally posted by Monroe

It's ridiculous that there are posters saying that the song is 'controversial' and that's why it's not getting played. I doubt that has anything to do with it. It is very likely that the song reminds people too much of Poker Face and Bad Romance and that has turned people off because they wanted something more from her.

As to the arguments that 'radio isn't giving it a chance' well why would radio play something that it's audience doesn't want to hear? That makes no sense and will only negatively effect their stations ratings.

I think there is an over saturation of Gaga at the moment and that's why we have been seeing diminished returns from her. EOG likely won't do much different from Judas it may fare better on radio if Interscope lets it climb, but it's already performed worse then Judas in terms of iTunes performance. It's already dropped from the top spot of iTunes where as Judas was #1 on the chart for 4 days. The public has reached their saturation point with Gaga and can only take so much of her. Born This Way also probably turned a lot of people off too which negatively effected Judas. In general I would say people don't want what she is delivering.

Compare this to her last era and I think it's obvious people have grown tired of her and/or are just not receptive of the material she is putting out:

Just Dance 6 million - > Born This Way 3 million
Poker Face 6 million - > Judas will struggle to reach 1 million
LoveGame 3 million -> Edge Of Glory will likely perform as Judas has
Paparazzi 3 million
Bad Romance 5 million
Telephone 2 million
Alejandro 2 million

Originally posted by Bathomet

Death at BTW selling 6 million. Jesus Christ it didnt even pass the 3 million, it was 2,390,000 2 weeks ago. No its 17 on iTunes. Saying it will pass 6 million it should sell at least 50,000 copies in the next 74 weeks, which is complete unlikely, especially it will going to drop by the time. Even for a 4 times plat it would take nearly 34 weeks selling 50,000 weekly. It will be lucky if it passes the 3 million mark.

And the album will anhiliate her single sales because of complete album feature and the Taylor Swift effect (huge album sales in short time, saleswise- flop singles from Speak Now cuz everybody has the album)