The Beatles. They changed everything, and made songwriting important.
1) A band is different. They are playing the music live, so yes, they should be writing the song and the music.
2) All of the artists mentioned in the thread came after the Beatles and are well-respected legends so I disagree
1) A band is different. They are playing the music live, so yes, they should be writing the song and the music.
Hogwash. That's just a fat double standard. In any case, if you're the one performing the song it would be nice if you contributed to the lyrics. Plus bands are no strangers to songwriters and producers either. The producer will produce a song for them and they will play it live.
Hogwash. That's just a fat double standard. In any case, if you're the one performing the song it would be nice if you contributed to the lyrics. Plus bands are no strangers to songwriters and producers either. The producer will produce a song for them and they will play it live.
Well if you are saying that singers should write their own music-- you are talking about lyrics. Not everyone in the band writes lyrics. They usually only write for their specific part of the song. Of course they will add input, but the drummer doesn't usually write lyrics. Some rare cases--yes, but you know what I mean.
It’s not. I don't give a **** about who wrote the song and most songs written by professional songwriters are much better than most of the lame tracks written by artists themselves. For example, Taylor Swift wrote the majority of “Speak Now” herself and you notice that even before checking the booklet, because all the songs are extremely similar, lyrically and sonically.
It's mostly used as an excuse for flops. "At least I write my own songs, blah, blah, blah." But no one really cares about that.
Pressed Britney stan... i see. You are not allowed to talk about songwriting quality. Judging by this pathetic post, you clearly have no clue. How the fuq are they similar? And also she wrote majority? Not really good with facts, are we?
If you don't write your music you are not an artist; you are a performer. There's nothing wrong with being a performer, but there's very little artistic integrity in it. You are baiscally an image that sells music for profit, not a person who lives and breathes music.
I find it hard to call someone who doesn't write their material a musician.
It's always obvious to me when an artist was not part of the songwriting process. The songs sound hollow, like they could be sung by anyone. Some people just aren't songwriters and that's okay, but just being involved in the process makes a world of difference.
It's a plus. I mean is better if the artist can write songs because it shows more talent.
But it's ok not writting your songs.... it's like actors, we don't judge them because they're not writting their roles in movies, they just play their characters and bring them to life.
There are great songwriters that can't sing... and there are great singers that can't write.
Because a singer who has experienced and written the following lyrics herself will sing them with different emotion (will be more believable) than the artist who hasn't experienced it and is singing what another person wrote for him/her:
Quote:
Momma please stop cryin, I can't stand the sound
Your pain is painful and its tearin' me down
I hear glasses breakin as I sit up in my bed
I told dad you didn't mean those nasty things you
said
You fight about money, bout me and my brother
And this I come home to, this is my shelter
It ain't easy growin up in World War III
Never knowin what love could be, you'll see
I don't want love to destroy me like it has done
my family
Can we work it out? Can we be a family?
I promise I'll be better, Mommy I'll do anything
Can we work it out? Can we be a family?
I promise I'll be better, Daddy please don't
leave
Daddy please stop yellin, I can't stand the sound
Make mama stop cryin, cuz I need you around
My mama she loves you, no matter what she says
its true
I know that she hurts you, but remember I love
you, too
I ran away today, ran from the noise, ran away
Don't wanna go back to that place, but don't have
no choice, no way
It ain't easy growin up in World War III
Never knowin what love could be, well I've seen
I don't want love to destroy me like it did my
family
Can we work it out? Can we be a family?
I promise I'll be better, Mommy I'll do anything
Can we work it out? Can we be a family?
I promise I'll be better, Daddy please don't
leave
In our family portrait, we look pretty happy
Let's play pretend, let's act like it comes
naturally
I don't wanna have to split the holidays
I don't want two addresses
I don't want a step-brother anyways
And I don't want my mom to have to change her
last name
In our family portrait we look pretty happy
We look pretty normal, let's go back to that
In our family portrait we look pretty happy
Let's play pretend, act like it goes naturally
In our family portrait we look pretty happy
(Can we work it out? Can we be a family?)
We look pretty normal, let's go back to that
(I promise I'll be better, Mommy I'll do
anything)
In our family portrait we look pretty happy
(Can we work it out? Can we be a family?)
Let's play pretend act and like it comes so
naturally
(I promise I'll be better, Daddy please don't
leave)
In our family portrait we look pretty happy
(Can we work it out? Can we be a family?)
We look pretty normal, let's go back to that
(I promise I'll be better, Daddy please don't
leave)
Daddy don't leave
Daddy don't leave
Daddy don't leave
Turn around please
Remember that the night you left you took my
shining star?
Daddy don't leave
Daddy don't leave
Daddy don't leave
Don't leave us here alone
Mom will be nicer
I'll be so much better, I'll tell my brother
Oh, I won't spill the milk at dinner
I'll be so much better, I'll do everything right
I'll be your little girl forever
I'll go to sleep at night
Well if you are saying that singers should write their own music-- you are talking about lyrics. Not everyone in the band writes lyrics. They usually only write for their specific part of the song. Of course they will add input, but the drummer doesn't usually write lyrics. Some rare cases--yes, but you know what I mean.
What the hell does that have to do with what I said? Bye.
If you don't write your music....You are baiscally an image that sells music for profit.
THIS! If you aren't involved with the creation of the material you sing and perform, then you are just a face that sells a product that other people have created. It's not wrong, but that is what it is.
If you don't write your music you are not an artist; you are a performer. There's nothing wrong with being a performer, but there's very little artistic integrity in it. You are basically an image that sells music for profit, not a person who lives and breathes music.
I find it hard to call someone who doesn't write their material a musician.
They're all like that, in the mainstream (even those who are signed to indie labels sometimes), at the end of the day... Whether they write their own stuff or not.
No, not all people can write. You basically say that everyone can write lyrics. No. You should have seen some of the kids in my English class when we had to do our poetry projects. There were quite a few terrible ones.
And sure anyone can write--but that doesn't mean it should be a song and that doesn't mean that they can write well. Why should an artist be forced to record and release a terrible song just because people think that writing is so important.
Now, don't get me wrong I love to write, and want to do it when I am older, but I realize that it's not everyone's cup of tea.
No, what I meant to say was that if a person has the talent for it, he/she can write music regardless of the genre, because that has nothing to do with it.
I agree, some people just can't write. But, as agreed, it's a talent, which is why people respect artists who can. At the same time I don't think its fair to hate on/give any less credit to artists that can't, at least, not if they have great vocal talents such as Beyonce or Celine to make up for it.
If a person CAN write but doesn't though, that's just a waste. No respect there.
What people don't realise is that the commercial/pop/mainstream music scene is a business. Every popstar is a product which the record label has either designed, or the artist designed themself for the label. The record label will then put the product through different R&D/ processing/ test marketing stages and will eventually put the product on the market and advertise it.
If the artist is capable of writing good songs which the public like then this will be seen as a unique selling point by the label because they know the public prefers popstars who write their own stuff. If the product/popstar is a manufactured one the label will hire a team of expensive song writers and producers to create music for the popstar to utilize and sometimes if the artist insists, the label will let them join the song-writers/producers in creating the music.
