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Music News: Britney, Eminem, Lady Gaga play the self-reference game
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Easily outsold? Backstreet Boys sold the same amount as ...Baby One More Time, 'N Sync albums sold about as much as both BOMT and Oops!.
She led the way for female artists to break out, and none of them as successful. Her impact was very strong when she debuted.
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Her impact was big, but just as Britney stans insist on belittling Gaga's accomplishments, it's easy to bring down Britney from her stan-imposed legend throne: serviceable pop songs, lypsynching controversies, fans walking out of concerts, breakdowns, etc. etc.
As for her mix of sex and controversy with music, to quote Britney stans: Madonna did it first.
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Originally posted by thegmangrant
Gaga isn't a legend yet but I see a long respectable career going for you. I can see her becoming a legend. And like you've said with Mariah, Madonna, Whitney, and Janet and Britney... they've all put in a long effort into their areas of music to get to their legend status.
I'll have to disagree with you though. Gaga's music is clearly different from Ke$ha's. And Gaga has paved the way for Ke$ha....
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Ok maybe I want a lil too far saying all of her music was similar... but Ke$ha's and Gaga's singles have been generic. (Yeah that is today's formula but come on Gaga needs some kind of ballad)
Poker Face, Just Dance and Tik Tok, We R Who We R are alike.
The difference is that Gaga has a fantastic voice 
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Originally posted by MonstahNL
Why don't you beg to differ and provide some real arguments?
Because the only think I notice you doing, is calling people delusional.
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Make a solid statement for what? Prove that Britney had a impact in pop music???
Sorry i'm not here to teach y'all about the most basic thing. If you don't know this use Google or get a time machine 
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
Her impact was big, but just as Britney stans insist on belittling Gaga's accomplishment, it's easy to bring down Britney from her stan-imposed legend throne: serviceable pop songs, lypsynching controversies, fans walking out of concerts, breakdowns, etc. etc.
As for her mix of sex and controversy with music, to quote Britney stans: Madonna did it first.
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I've honestly seen no one belittle GaGa in this thread, which is why I asked earlier why there was a fight. I've only seen people say she isn't a legend. Anyone who said her impact isn't great, well they are being delusional.
As far as your bring-downs, a breakdown couldn't skew impact. Fans walking out of concerts, thats still a questionable argument from one concert in Australia. Lip-syncing belittles her performance skills as of lately. Serviceable pop songs is one I definitely don't agree, at least not before Circus. Britney makes her songs what they are. Unless you're talking during the impact stage, which even then Britney songs were Britney songs.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
Her impact was big, but just as Britney stans insist on belittling Gaga's accomplishments, it's easy to bring down Britney from her stan-imposed legend throne: serviceable pop songs, lypsynching controversies, fans walking out of concerts, breakdowns, etc. etc.
As for her mix of sex and controversy with music, to quote Britney stans: Madonna did it first.
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Gaga has just as big as an impact yes. But Britney did pave the way for Gaga. Even Blackout paved the way for Gaga. I don't agree with the other stans about Belittling Gaga because clearly she has a future ahead for her.
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Originally posted by BeatZ
(Yeah that is today's formula but come on Gaga needs some kind of ballad)
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Releasing a ballad nowadays will most certainly end up becoming a flop.
Of course there are some exceptions but ballads usually don't do well in the current industry.
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Originally posted by BeatZ
Ok maybe I want a lil too far saying all of her music was similar... but Ke$ha's and Gaga's singles have been generic. (Yeah that is today's formula but come on Gaga needs some kind of ballad)
Poker Face, Just Dance and Tik Tok, We R Who We R are alike.
The difference is that Gaga has a fantastic voice |
No offense but thats how u become a big popstar... Generic, and catchy... all Gaga's singles are like that, and all Britney's SONGS are like that...
I agree 100%.. i wish gagas music WASNT soo generic.. she riding the britney wave YES I SAID IT.. Britney influenced modern pop, im not delusional
Thats why fan favorites like DITD were NOT chosen as singles cuz it would have flopped for NOT being generic
Bad Romance was the perfect hybrid of Mainstream and Non Mainstream sound IMO and the only Gaga single that wasnt 100% generic 
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Originally posted by BeatZ
Ok maybe I want a lil too far saying all of her music was similar... but Ke$ha's and Gaga's singles have been generic. (Yeah that is today's formula but come on Gaga needs some kind of ballad)
Poker Face, Just Dance and Tik Tok, We R Who We R are alike.
The difference is that Gaga has a fantastic voice |
The difference is that Gaga has been progressing though. You are comparing singles Ke$ha made long after Gaga released those singles.
And in Gaga's defense, she really did want to release Speechless. You could tell. She was promoting that song all over when the Fame Monster came out. But it's obvious that her label wanted to keep going with the dance pop hits and get more smashes. It makes sense since she was getting top ten hit after top ten hit.
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Originally posted by thegmangrant
Gaga has just as big as an impact yes. But Britney did pave the way for Gaga. Even Blackout paved the way for Gaga. I don't agree with the other stans about Belittling Gaga because clearly she has a future ahead for her.
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NON delusional Britney Fan.. I LOVE U 
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Make a solid statement for what? Prove that Britney had a impact in pop music???
Sorry i'm not here to teach y'all about the most basic thing. If you don't know this use Google or get a time machine |
You are convinced Britney's impact was way bigger than Lady Gaga's, yet you didn't really made a solid statement or provided arguments.
The only thing you did was calling people delusional when their opinion didn't match yours.
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Originally posted by thegmangrant
Gaga has just as big as an impact yes. But Britney did pave the way for Gaga. Even Blackout paved the way for Gaga. I don't agree with the other stans about Belittling Gaga because clearly she has a future ahead for her.
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In a nutshell. 
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Originally posted by thegmangrant
The difference is that Gaga has been progressing though. You are comparing singles Ke$ha made long after Gaga released those singles.
And in Gaga's defense, she really did want to release Speechless. You could tell. She was promoting that song all over when the Fame Monster came out. But it's obvious that her label wanted to keep going with the dance pop hits and get more smashes. It makes sense since she was getting top ten hit after top ten hit.
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Actually Speechless was planned to be released after Alejandro. But they decided it's better to take a break which its smart.
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Originally posted by MonstahNL
Releasing a ballad nowadays will most certainly end up becoming a flop.
Of course there are some exepctions but ballads usually don't do well in the current industry.
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I know, that's why I said it's today's formula but I for myself would like to see a Gaga successful ballad, I really loved "Speechless" 
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Originally posted by thegmangrant
The difference is that Gaga has been progressing though. You are comparing singles Ke$ha made long after Gaga released those singles.
And in Gaga's defense, she really did want to release Speechless. You could tell. She was promoting that song all over when the Fame Monster came out. But it's obvious that her label wanted to keep going with the dance pop hits and get more smashes. It makes sense since she was getting top ten hit after top ten hit.
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I obviously know Ke$ha came after Gaga, but to me in that topic I just find Gaga's music "fun" just like Ke$ha's, Katy's, etc...
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Originally posted by Lost_In_Stereo100
No offense but thats how u become a big popstar... Generic, and catchy... all Gaga's singles are like that, and all Britney's SONGS are like that...
I agree 100%.. i wish gagas music WASNT soo generic.. she riding the britney wave YES I SAID IT.. Britney influenced modern pop, im not delusional
Thats why fan favorites like DITD were NOT chosen as singles cuz it would have flopped for NOT being generic
Bad Romance was the perfect hybrid of Mainstream and Non Mainstream sound IMO and the only Gaga single that wasnt 100% generic |
Britney pulled some successful ballads, for example "Everytime" was a #1 Worldwide smash 
Bad Romance
I agree with the first paragraph but some artists that started with generic, catchy, fun songs then pulled some successful ballads, the only exception I find with this are Whitney and Mariah.
but YEAH! it's so hard for ballads to be successful in these times. 
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Originally posted by MonstahNL
You are convinced Britney's impact was way bigger than Lady Gaga's, yet you didn't really made a solid statement or provided arguments.
The only thing you did was calling people delusional when their opinion didn't match yours.
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Honestly I believe Britney and Gaga have had the same huge impact in the beginning of their careers
The only difference is that Britney did in ways pave the way for Gaga which is what sets her ahead a little bit
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Originally posted by MonstahNL
You are convinced Britney's impact was way bigger than Lady Gaga's, yet you didn't really made a solid statement or provided arguments.
The only thing you did was calling people delusional when their opinion didn't match yours.
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Britney leaded pop music and the way it was made for this whole decade, and influenced all the following artist, including your very own Lady Gaga.
If Gaga do better than that, then her impact will be bigger.
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Originally posted by thegmangrant
Honestly I believe Britney and Gaga have had the same huge impact in the beginning of their careers
The only difference is that Britney did in ways pave the way for Gaga which is what sets her ahead a little bit
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I agree.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
In a nutshell. |
I know this is off topic but I am curious as how your username came to be. I always thought it came from Piece Of Me but then one day I looked at the day you joined in early 06...
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Originally posted by GaGaFan
The GaGa hate! 
Oh well...I guess I knew this was predictable.
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who cares for them haha !
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Originally posted by Mgui_Blackout
Britney leaded pop music and the way it was made for this whole decade, and influenced all the following artist, including your very own Lady Gaga.
If Gaga do better than that, then her impact will be bigger.
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Exactly. What sets Britney ahead is the face that she cleared way for Gaga
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Originally posted by thegmangrant
I know this is off topic but I am curious as how your username came to be. I always thought it came from Piece Of Me but then one day I looked at the day you joined in early 06...
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It is from "Piece of Me".  We used to be able to change usernames up until late 2007-early 2008, which at that point I decided to keep this. 
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