criticics don't love established artists, they love what they think is good. There are a lot of scorned established artists as much as there are loved ones, I dont know what gave you that idea?

Rolling stones already reviewed her songs by that time, but they didn't make it

My fave just reached another 40 page topic!


Well done gurl

At the end of the day, Lady Gaga has become a pop star. Does it matter if she's surpassed the current stars or not?

Ummm.....Sis if that's the case then how the heck is she still selling millions worlwide? Fading my @ss. The receipts and world says no!

You're kidding yourself if you think it took over a year for Britney to rise to international fame and become a household name. She did that literally a few months after her debut album. SHE SMASHED the world in 1999 (Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter) year round then came back to own the game again in 2000 (but that's for another time and date). I mean she did go diamond in less than a year in the US alone (46 weeks to be precise) and not long afterward diamond in Canada. She had the world in the palm of her had before Fall 1999 (before she was even 18). She is the reason for one of pop culture's most memorable looks ever with the school girl outfit in the ...Baby One More Time music video (that she was responsible for coming up with the idea for). Do not kid yourself and try it boo, I won't have it on my watch!

It was actually a fair statement to make. Britney is fading Globally. That does not mean she won't rise again, but her next album is going to be very important. It's been a long time since she had a global smash, her lack of promotion WW during the past few years has not helped her.

Comin' from an oldie here that has seen pop stars rise and fall since the 80s, I honestly haven't seen anyone break through so quickly and massively as Lady Gaga. This is not to diminish anyone else, but really, I think she's become phenomenal. Like one magazine article quoted - "When she breathes, it's an event."

In all honesty, I have nothing against Britney Spears, but I also feel that she's sort of fading. Although her previous singles (before 3) were successful, they weren't mega hits like 3 was. Perhaps she's just ready to lead a family type of life, from what I"ve seen in the photos posted.

To clarify, I am not a Gaga stan.

I see Gaga as a fad right now,Love the girl but she relies too much on gimmicks. She has talent but her costumes and antics overshadowed it. IMO

A dance show I am in is raising money for charity by creating gift baskets you can bid on at the show. The majority of the baskets include: sports, cooking, beach, houseware, and Lady Gaga merchandise.

Her rise to fame is massive, and no one can deny it. She has her own section in party city for halloween costumes inspired by her.

I wouldn't go as far to say she has achieved the same fame level of Britney and Beyonce, but there is NO denying she is miles ahead more famous and respected than Katy, Rihanna, and Kesha.

They implied she would fade into oblivion like Christina did and I had to tell them otherwise. Her lack of promotion is very obvious, but I wouldn't expect her to do a ton of it next era either. She's a mother first and has duties to her children before anything else. Some will say well there are other huge entertainment figures who promote heavily and are very active mothers, but the problem with Britney is she has a custody dispute to deal with all the time. She or Kevin can't even travel out of the state without several court orders granting permission. Then there is the negotiating of how much to pay Kevin to take the kids with her. She's not going to go without seeing her kids for 3 days tops, she simply loves those two boys too much for that to happen. She had to make a petition to the judge for her kids to travel with her while on tour, where she had to fund Kevin and his little girlfriend for the ride. It is what it is though, she'll do the bare minimum for promotion and still sell great worldwide. Maybe not no 5/6million, but great none the less.

She had global smashes in Womanizer and Circus...what are you talking about?

And in my opinion, since pop music got so generic, it's not that hard to stay relevant as it used to be. For example, Enrique Iglesias scoring a top 10 hit with "I Like It", when he is past his prime. People don't really care about the actual singer anymore, they just care that a song is catchy. If a song is catchy, it will sell. The reason why Xtina flopped was because her new music wasn't strong.

Gaga is the spearhead of a genre moving to the forefront of music (Electropop). Beyonce was and still is that for Contemporary R&B. Britney was that for Bubblegum Pop. All 3 women had lessors dragging behind them trying to come for their success...

My point is...Britney & Beyonce have lasted past the time period where their genres were huge and have changed with the times...Gaga has Born This Way and when her next album comes out it'll be a different music climate...and we'll see whether she can change with the times or if her impact is so great that she wont decline

Then what was Circus and Womanizer than? The following singles after that lacked no promotion for them (no performances or tv appearances). After promoting the album for the opening week and during the Womanizer promo tour, we didn't see much of her again till the tour...and then the 131.8 million grossed tour WW (5th most grossed tour by a female artist ever) happened. Breaking records in venues around the world. She then followed that up with "3" in the fall where Jive promoted the song a little with banner ads on iTunes for a short period, press releases, and radio promo (broadcast ads).

Yes I am talking about the following singles, which had moderate success but were not on the same level as "Hit Me One More Time" or even "3." To some extent, I don't even feel that Circus was at that level. Once more, I will emphasize that I am not saying she was unsuccessful - I think I was very careful in making that point. I just don't think there was much as far as those massive hits like from before. Again, I'm sure her tour was successful and whatnot - the point I'm trying to make is that she's fading. And again, for die-hard stans, that shouldn't be an issue - as long as she keeps making the music is what matters.

Circus the single sold 5.5 million records worldwide in 2009 alone (IFPF named it as one of the top selling records of 2009). Typically not every single on an album are massive worldwide hits, because if that was the case artists like Michael and Madonna would've had even more record sales than they have right now (which are plenty as it is). Britney basically made every move possibly to kill her career with Blackout and she still was able to sell plenty during that era. She may not sell record numbers like she did in the past, but she'll sell plenty to keep her in the big leagues.

More promo anywhere couldn't hurt (she had only 4 performances during the last three eras), but she's far from fading.

Womanizer and Circus were not global smashes. Lady GaGa, Katy, Ke$ha, P!nk and Rihanna have all had hits to dwarf them. Womanizer did well in most territories, but it was not enough to maintain her supposed position as Madonna's successor as her fans like to refer to her.

It's simply not enough for Britney to continue releasing as she has done during the past few years, she's not going to stay on top without promotion. Her fans like to brag about "3" topping the charts, but the song barely reached the two million mark. That's not encouraging. She's yet to have a song cross the 3 million mark in paid downloads in the US. She needs to step it up to compete with the new girls that have emerged.

"Womanizer" did that, it's at 3.1+ million now and "Circus" will do it too, it's at 2.8+ million.

But yeah, she needs to get off her lazy but and promote, which will most likely happen if the rumors we've been getting are true.

Agree.