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News: Princess boy
Member Since: 2/23/2010
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Originally posted by yankee04
It is an interesting story and it brings up an interesting topic. We know a lot of this board is quite gay-friendly and I know the majority of the board supports the parents in this case. I do as well. But it brings up an interesting question. What would you do if you were the parent? It is easy to accept something that someone we don't know is doing. If it doesn't affect us, it is quite easy to accept. But I'd suspect the amount of us here that would accept that child wanting to princess if we were the parent would be quite low. I don't know if I would.
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When I was younger I liked to use boy's clothing just to contradict the idea of pinky girly things, but it wasnt just for that. Like sometimes daughters have a special connection with fathers, sons have special connections with mothers. I respected and looked up to my father so much I wanted to resemble him. There are various reasons for a kid to decide to dress a certain way, not all of them are related to their sexuality... so when does a person really define their style for the first time? I'm not sure a 5 year old can do that, he's probably mixing play time with reality. So if I were his mother I would let him wear whatever he wanted when he was playing, and for the rest of the clothing I would try to understand what else he liked beyond princess dresses and find a midterm.
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by RatedGaga
^ Exactly. The boy is 5 years old, how can he have a sexuality!
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Freud would disgaree.
But as I said it is more a sign of Gender Dysmorphia than homosexuality, but it could well be neither, some people make mountains out of mole-hills.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
Freud would disgaree.
But as I said it is more a sign of Gender Dysmorphia than homosexuality, but it could well be neither, some people make mountains out of mole-hills.
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If you are talking Sigmund Freud, then you must take Psychology, like me. And you must also know that most of his theories were proven wrong 
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by RatedGaga
If you are talking Sigmund Freud, then you must take Psychology, like me. And you must also know that most of his theories were proven wrong |
I do study Freud and in actual fact most of his theories lack falsifiability, which means they can't be proven wrong. A great hypothesis is one that can't be proven wrong. Which is why Freud is still widely respected and used even though the guy clearly had issues.
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
Although in the article it does not say that the boy has any desire to be a girl or anything similar to that, he has strong and typical signs of gender dysphoria. Perhaps he simply likes to wear girls clothes and will grow out of it, maybe he will always be fond of tutus and will otherwise be a well-adjusted young man but it does seem that he has a desire to be a girl as in children that age they do not know how to express such things other than changing their appearance externally. I may be completely wrong but to the people who think the parents are doing the wrong thing in letting him be himself...
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/b...s-18/episode-1
In my psychology class we are doing a module on gender development and as a part of that course we are studying transgenderism in children. It isn't simply kids taking a notion to wearing dresses or wanting to be like their Mom or Dad, it is a genuine medical condition called Gender Dysphoria and contrary to popular belief it is biological rather than psychological.
Gender isn't simply the length of your hair and what you have going on down there, it actually has 5 'layers'. There is chromosomal sex, gonadal sex, hormonal sex, sex of internal reproductive structures and sex of external genitals. If there is a low correlation in those categories this can result in hermaphrodites but pseudo-hermaphrodites are more common, meaning that they are externally one sex and internally another, this tends to be what is going on with kids like 'princess boy', whether it is literally having a different internal structure, one chromosome that they should not have or a hormonal imbalance. It is a medical disorder and needs to be respected as such.
People that look down on or make fun of kids, teenagers and adults that are trans-gender are disgusting, could you possibly imagine feeling like you were born in the wrong body? Thank god that there are medical professionals who can make them comfortable with themselves again, they deserve nothing less than to feel comfortable in their own skin and that boy's parents are definitely doing the right thing.
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No ones criticizing trangenders here, thats not the question. The question is whether to let a 5 year old child decide what he wants to wear in public or not, mostly because of the consequences that may occur. If a 5 year old kid decided to wear scary tshirts with blood and knifes, just because he liked to watch a lot of horror movies, would you let him? He's not old enough to decide what he should wear or not because he's not aware of the consequences. It would be all very confusing to him while he was growing up.
If your 5 year old kid liked to dress like a **** because of the music videos he watched and the over sexualized television he watched, would you let him? He doesnt even understand what that would imply!
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
I do study Freud and in actual fact most of his theories lack falsifiability, which means they can't be proven wrong. A great hypothesis is one that can't be proven wrong. Which is why Freud is still widely respected and used even though the guy clearly had issues.
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Anyways, he is still widely respected, but some of his theories were wacked, and many times he was only half right with his studies
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Originally posted by amandatheafter
No ones criticizing trangenders here, thats not the question. The question is whether to let a 5 year old child decide what he wants to wear in public or not, mostly because of the consequences that may occur. If a 5 year old kid decided to wear scary tshirts with blood and knifes, just because he liked to watch a lot of horror movies, would you let him? He's not old enough to decide what he should wear or not because he's not aware of the consequences. It would be all very confusing to him while he was growing up.
If your 5 year old kid liked to dress like a **** because of the music videos he watched and the over sexualized television he watched, would you let him? He doesnt even understand what that would imply!
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If you actually looked at the link this would not be necessary 
And violence and the oversexualisation of a kid has pretty much no relevance, wearing a tutu doesn't harm a kid, however projecting a violent image or dressing in a way to attract a paedophile does. People say it may cause the kid to get bullied but as you all say, he is 5, his peers shouldn't see any difference and if they do...well that is what teachers/parents/guardians are for. He isn't hurting himself or anyone else.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by RatedGaga
^ Exactly. The boy is 5 years old, how can he have a sexuality!
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Honey sexuality cannot be chosen, you're born with it!
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Originally posted by Satellites
Honey sexuality cannot be chosen, you're born with it!
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What I meant was that it hasn't developed yet because he is still so young
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by RatedGaga
What I meant was that it hasn't developed yet because he is still so young
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Some psychologists would argue that you are indeed born with preprogrammed sexuality and that even at an extremely young age it can be apparent.
Many parents will tell you that they knew their child was gay from the age of 4 or so.
Not arguing with you, just making a point 
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Oh gosh Bea, fine you win 
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by RatedGaga
Oh gosh Bea, fine you win |
It's just nice to have an intellectual conversation with someone here 
I like it when people can give me a good debate 
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Member Since: 4/21/2009
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Originally posted by Satellites
Honey sexuality cannot be chosen, you're born with it!
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uh.....
anyway what does his sexuality have to anything with him wearing dresses....he's only 5.
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Member Since: 1/14/2007
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Originally posted by RatedGaga
Oh gosh Bea, fine you win |
Why you giving up so easily?
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Member Since: 10/23/2010
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I am a gay supporter 100%, but I don't know I just feel indifferent about this. :-/
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Why do some of ya'll assume that this little boy is gay and that his life will be ****ed up? Little kids are CURIOUS. Trust me, I know when I was around 3/4 years old. I used my mom's nail polish and and painted my finger nails, because I thought it was like finger paint and painting nails was kinda cool but of course I did not know that nail polish was mainly used for females and I grew out of it and I am not gay. This boy probably doesn't realize that the only girls are princesses like how I did not realize that nail polish was mainly used for females.
3,4,5 year olds don't think like adults, they don't have adult minds. They have the mentality of a little kid. He is only five years old. It's like like this is a 30 year old man desiring to be a princess. You got to let kids express themselves.
So it's not fair to pre-judge him and say he is gay, he will be a tranny ect We don't really know that. Like I said he probably does not realize that females are princesses, he probably thinks anyone can become a princess at that age. He will probably grow out of it.
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Originally posted by LoveVsMoney
uh.....
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Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash
Society as a whole didn't want women to have skirts above their kneecaps at one point; society as a whole didn't allow women at one point to vote; society as a whole found slavery okay at one point; society as a whole didn't allow n!iggers like myself to sit at tables with white people because of the differences in skin color; society as a whole has corrupted your tiny pea-brain into thinking that normal, ordinary occurrence = morally right. |
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