I like Allison, I was just trying to make a point and omg, are you from PJ as well?!?!?!

Grammar Fail.

Nicknames aren't allowed outside of SYG.

Thanks. I'll delve further.

In my opinion, to be THE BEST at anything, you have to do something exceptional. You have to blow everyone else out of the water, unquestionably. You can't just be exceptional. Beyonce is exceptional for her skills and her consistent success, but consistency isn't enough in this case. Beyonce has not had a Bodyguard or a True Blue, or even a janet.; I Am... Sasha Fierce was her most successful era (relatively speaking) and even then she didn't dominate her competition. GaGa and Taylor were right there with her, and then some.

Do you know what I'm saying? She hasn't had the moment yet, that special something that defines one's career and puts all haters in their place. Single Ladies isn't enough, everybody has a memorable hit song. If she's 40 and still hasn't had her moment but is still achieving the same level of success that she is now, I'll reconsider; no other female artist has ever had that kind of stability. That would put her in the running for the best of all-time. But for now, at age 28, it doesn't impress me all that much. Her career has always been great. Just not unbelievable. The best diva has to be unbelievable.

I noticed most of your paragraph was about album success, just saying. It's also not fair to compare her with them since times are so obviously different now and music isn't in the same place as it was in their time. There is a reason she has the most viewed female music video in history you know what I mean. For the last 10 years she has been undefeated on the Billboard Charts and her popularity has been through the roof. She has performed at the Academy Awards to critical acclaim more than 5 times and has won more awards than any artist last decade including 16 Grammy Awards. The woman averages $80 million dollars a year, something that other women are not doing. She cannot be rivaled on the stage by anyone of any generation and she has unbelievable talent to back all of that up as well as a humble heart. If that isn't enough, then nothing ever will be! You will go blind waiting on her to have a Bodyguard or a True Blue because we are in the 10's when the pop music scene is raging with dance songs. She has to balance her music to impress all different types of crowds and she does that perfectly. If she were to make an album like Janell Monae sure she would get lots of critical acclaim but it wouldn't sell and then where would we be.

All Beyonce is that ALBUM that would put her above the rest --- whether it be broken records or major acclaim or both. I think she needs a Rhythm Nation 1814, Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, Ray of Light, The Bodyguard, or something in that realm. Beyonce has all the talent, accolades, etc. But be honest, none of her contemporaries have done it either. For example, Britney had the sales but her albums are terrible to OK. She doesn't have as much talent as Beyonce.

I agree with eli's_rhythm , no one is disputing she isn't successful and a great performer. I just find her musical output to never be as good as her ability to put on a show.

Her biggest problem is that I feel like someone is holding her back, to fully GO THERE, with her music. She has alot of hit songs, but that isn't enough..her music treads lightly on the surface. Take Rihanna for example, her Good Girl Gone Bad album was alot like I Am...hits songs, very commercial and very well produced but that's about it. But with Rihanna's Rated R, she REALLY went there and gave us a glimpse within herself. Like I said earlier Beyonce's music s treading the surface, and it doesn't reflect her as a person.

This is when I stop taking you seriously.

I completely agree with this post.

I am a fan of Beyoncé's. I went to the Experience tour in 2006 at Madison Square Garden and screamed my butt off for her when she waved to the left side of the arena. I've loved all of her albums. That all said, she really hasn't had that album or era where everything fell into place perfectly and it was her and everybody else.

Whitney had it with The Bodyguard (1993-1994)
Mariah had it with Daydream (1995-1996)
Janet had it with Rhythm Nation 1814 (1989-1990)
Celine had it with Falling Into You (1996-1997)
Madonna had it with True Blue (1986-1987)

I am hoping and waiting for Beyoncé's defining moment, but it hasn't arrived yet. And that is not a bad thing. It gives us something to look forward to. What is a bad thing is to hyperbolize her accomplishments, ultimately underselling the achievements of the women above who've paved the way for her and her contemporaries.

Just my opinion

But Rihanna still has a long way to go in artistry. I liked her ambition, but that album wasn't exactly groundbreaking either. Actually, a lot of her fans dislike it.

In Europe she doesnt

I think 1995-1996 was both Alanis and Mariah. But whatever. lol

MTM, I'm not a poster, but I am a lurker!

And, like i was saying to Eli - forget Rated R, because that's a non-issue - but we're never going to get a 1997-1998 pop season, will we? Mariah's Butterfly, Janet's The Velvet Rope, Madonna's Ray of Light and Kylie's Impossible Princess were all released within 6 months of each other. All were incredibly personal, and were bold new directions for each particular artist. Nowadays, introspection comes in the form of I Am ..., which only has two ballads - Halo and Satelites - that are worth anything. (The less said about crap like Britney's My Baby and 55% of Bionic, the better.)

I agree Beyonce is the greatest Diva cause not only is she talented, successful & Beautiful but she's also humble & never speaks ill about anyone which makes her a true diva

But many children and teenagers love Bieber and Cyrus. What does that tell you?

That was never what this was about, the man who wrote this never said she was more successful than them did he? He didn't shade any other women who came before her or anything, he simply stated facts and let it be known that this woman has all different types of talent pouring from her body that she is known for while the others simply have 1 or 2. No other so-called diva has ever been able to mesh sexuality, femininity, and strength in this way. We challenge you to think of one diva that has. Beyoncé is the greatest diva of all time because she has redefined the meaning of “The Diva.” No longer is she one dimensional, overly pampered and frivolous: she is strong and decisive, yet glamorous. She makes her own money, and she is a real woman.

This, we really need her defining album

Well yes because to be the #1 diva you have to be VERY SUCCESSFUL it's about more than just talent.

She is very popular and all, but she is still not as popular as those women were in their top years. Numbers are numbers but I'm talking relevance and impact. Beyonce is doing very well but she is not untouchable, she is not even close to being "legendary" yet, it still feels like there's a lot she has to prove.

When somebody thinks of Beyonce, what do they think of? "Oh she's beautiful. Great performer. Nice ass too." Does that sound like the greatest diva of all time to you? Something I'd add is that the biggest diva has to be controversial. Beyonce is liked by just about everyone, she is completely safe and marketable. There have been zero risks taken in her career and no drama in her personal life. I'm not saying negatives like that are a good thing, but I'm also not going to sit here and pretend to be impressed by a catalog full of the same rehashed pop/R&B vanilla hit songs.

Don't start with the bolded please. I know you actually believe that, but I need more than just robotic precision to call someone the greatest performer ever.

Compared to the Whitneys and Madonnas, she is second tier. That's what I'm trying to say. Her star is not up there yet.

I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Her first album and her last album have gigantic diferences. In my opinion she's deteriorating over the years

Please stop...I don't care if your a Rihanna fan or not, but to stand here and pretend that, that album didn't reflect all that she went though over the past two years and her growth as a person and an artist is the definiton of being pressed.

You were so quick to pull an excerpt from Rolling Stone and use it as validation, well they even said that themselves and hailed it as one of the best pop records of the year