anyways i like kpop cause it doesn't take itself too seriously and come out with some contrived faux-deep ********, it's good at doing what it is which is pop music.
Because in the 90's western pop was all about boy and girl bands, 90's fashion, cheesy choreography, and bright colors.
It's literally the Kpop of right now (visually). How can you not see it?
No I get the jist. Groups go in and out of season, the 90's wasn't the only time period groups were popular.
What I don't understand is this pidgeon-holding that users on ATRL keep doing towards KPOP. Yes, KPOP started behind the trend. The groups of 2009-2011 were definitely taken right out of an NYSYNC video, just with RedOne production.
But it caught on, it evolved, it became the biggest cash cow, and now it's global, viral, and much different. It's its' own thing now.
It's really hard to attempt a discussion like this on a serious level because most are just close-minded and have an obscured idea of what k-pop actually is (which is just an umbrella term). They think it's one style done in just one way and nobody can write, play an instrument or really sing and everything is just Gangnam Style and arm choreography.
What gives the idea that they're stuck conceptually in the 90s/80s and that they get their fashion ideas from here and the UK? and here I thought that side of Asia had some of the most fashion forward countries in it.
No I get the jist. Groups go in and out of season, the 90's wasn't the only time period groups were popular.
What I don't understand is this pidgeon-holding that users on ATRL keep doing towards KPOP. Yes, KPOP started behind the trend. The groups of 2009-2011 were definitely taken right out of an NYSYNC video, just with RedOne production.
But it caught on, it evolved, it became the biggest cash cow, and now it's global, viral, and much different. It's its' own thing now.
This!!!
OKH need to realise that Kpop is not like what they were exposed to in 2009
and acts like Meghan Trainor, Charlie Puth, Katy Perry, Shawn Mendes aren't corny?
Well people do find Meghan corny and Charlie and Shawn are teen acts. Katy's campy style was in when she released (which is why she was able to find success GLOBALLY) and she hasn't put out an album since 2013 when pop music was still popular. K-Pop choreography is outdated in the west BOTTOM LINE CUT AND DRY
In the west, dancing isn't pushed by labels because pop artists are generally very lazy. K-pop artists are trained in dancing for years before they debut which is apparently something heavily desired in Asia.
Kpop was doing that a few years ago though. It was a wretched trend and I'm glad it's over. I genuinely don't understand this "kpop being stuck in the 90's" thing when it's literally seing the biggest increase globally as of recent. I mean, damn! Even a couple of Arianna's videos took some notes from Kpop videos. I see it starting trends moving forward, if anything. (though radio is definitely not going the same direction, yet.)
I agree with you about Ari's videos, but she is definitely the most k-pop influenced pop girl in the west, right? Focus was literally a k-pop video. K-pop deserves to expand and such, and it's great to see it gaining fans in English speaking countries. However, my point still stands about the production and stylings being late to the party. The US and UK continue to be the musical and fashion trend setters of the industry (not a positive or negative thing, just a fact).
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When has a Western act ever produced something to this standard? You can't call people late when they are ahead sweedy
I'm going to assume this was a joke (the song and video).
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What gives the idea that they're stuck conceptually in the 90s/80s and that they get their fashion ideas from here and the UK? and here I thought that side of Asia had some of the most fashion forward countries in it.
Fashion forward, as in, dressing in US and UK based street style brands (who ripped the style from black communities in the 1980's and 1990's)? There are more famous Japanese and Chinese fashion designers on this planet. I do no know why, but there just are. The only internationally popular Korean designer is Juun.J, who's designs are literally just extortions of Hood By Air, Rick Owens, and Yohji Yamamoto pieces. Like I said, this isn't due to a lack of talent or anything. It's just due to the fact that these trends aren't starting in Korea.
Well people do find Meghan corny and Charlie and Shawn are teen acts. Katy's campy style was in when she released (which is why she was able to find success GLOBALLY) and she hasn't put out an album since 2013 when pop music was still popular. K-Pop choreography is outdated in the west BOTTOM LINE CUT AND DRY
Says who? A Britney stan on ATRL?
You don't know ANYTHING about Kpop so its tragic when you make posts like this dragging it without ANY knowledge.
Some of you in here are so close minded and just plain dumb.
The same way how you can search up p*rn to jack off your peanuts you can do a quick little research on kpop and educate yourselves.
In the west, dancing isn't pushed by labels because pop artists are generally very lazy. K-pop artists are trained in dancing for years before they debut which is apparently something heavily desired in Asia.
It's not lazy to not dance
It's just different cultural norms, expectations, and desires. The same reason why all the dancing and 8 member groups are so popular over there.
I agree with you about Ari's videos, but she is definitely the most k-pop influenced pop girl in the west, right? Focus was literally a k-pop video. K-pop deserves to expand and such, and it's great to see it gaining fans in English speaking countries. However, my point still stands about the production and stylings being late to the party. The US and UK continue to be the musical and fashion trend setters of the industry (not a positive or negative thing, just a fact).
I'm going to assume this was a joke (the song and video).
Zara is taking the same route. Bebe Bonzetti or whatever is heading that direction as well.
I do agree the US and UK are the top trendsetters, and still will be. But I really don't think it's fair to say anymore that KPOP is riding their coat tails. I mean, the biggest releases of last year in korea sound nothing like the US's top 10 minus a couple of "Talk Dirty To Me" knock offs (which poot harmony ripped off as well.)