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Discussion: Gaga: "Pop music will never be lowbrow"
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Stop. Born this Way was a bad album with a couple of salvageable songs. The rest was pure trash (let's not discuss the bonus tracks).
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Honestly i don't miss this Gaga. Obviously, it was a great time and stuff, but this was in the past.
What i love about her the most is how she always reinvent herself, it's like she's a completely different person every era
She can make light dance-pop songs (The Fame & ARTPOP)
Dark pop songs with more deep stuff (The Fame Monster)
Dark pop songs with strong 80s and rock influences (Born this Way)
Be a incredible, versatile singer, a true vocalist (Cheek to Cheek)
Country and soft rock songs with a toned down image, being more personal (Joanne)
I really want to see what she'll do next and i'm pretty sure it's going to be very different than Joanne. Like she said on a interview, today she's a lady, what if tomorrow she's Gaga?
I understand why some stans (and non stans) miss the old her but y'all need to understand that she needs to change too. If y'all don't like Joanne, maybe the next one will be good for you. Just wait
Ugh sorry for the essay
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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I have always thought she said low bro 
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Member Since: 9/14/2010
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Originally posted by Negev
J a y
Stop. Born this Way was a bad album with a couple of salvageable songs. The rest was pure trash (let's not discuss the bonus tracks).
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Bloody Mary, Heavy Metal Lover, Yoü And I, Electric Chapel, The Edge of Glory say hi
Poor The Fame Monster
Bonus tracks? The Queen is waving with her white glove sis. 2:50 > discographies
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I never thought I would miss the days of her being extraordinary extra, just for the **** of it. 
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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A Nicole tea 
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Yoü and I is trash. No.
If we're talking. The songs that I did keep were TEOG, Bloody Mary, Electric Chapel... and that's it. I'd include Government Hooker but years later and the song is awful.
Her old music is dated production wise and I think she knows that, that's why Joanne is so out of trend.
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
A Nicole tea 
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first of all, you're ugly
you have a big nose
a lazy eye
rabbit teeth
droopy ****
In pop music, it's 90% about having OTHERS make you look good - producers, directors, etc. so given your disadvantage, you need EXTRA help, unlike most your peers. so if you insist on having people who don't know what the **** they're doing produce your music and direct your videos, your ass is going to be out of the picture by next year, and people will say "remember that 2-year wonder with the hairbow?"
It's fine to want to do things yourself but THE EDGE OF TRAGEDY video shows you're not capable : /
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she was such a god 
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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I've tolerated ARTPOP even though it was annoying as hell, and didn't care for numbers or charts. But she has declined drastically since then. She keeps getting worse and worse, meanwhile monsters keep kissing her ass.
BTW was her last amazing album and I highly doubt that she will ever reach that level of creativity or quality in her music ever again. She's got potentials but she keeps letting people under her skin.
I miss back when she told everybody to **** off and let her do her work. Now she seeks approvals and trying way too hard.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Brando
Yes pure pop Gaga please come back. She has so much potential and she's wasting it on pretentious crap.
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This.
I stanned her so hard.
If I remember correctly, she was the first celebrity I had a fan page for.
Now I'm just not interested. This is not what I came for.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Brando
Yes pure pop Gaga please come back. She has so much potential and she's wasting it on pretentious crap.
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This.
She owned pop music. It's so sad to see her ruining a perfect legacy.
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Member Since: 5/10/2012
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Kill off Flopanne and bring back pure pop Gaga pls
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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My first and hardest period of stanning for someone  such greatness we haven't seen since
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by J a y
first of all, you're ugly
you have a big nose
a lazy eye
rabbit teeth
droopy ****
In pop music, it's 90% about having OTHERS make you look good - producers, directors, etc. so given your disadvantage, you need EXTRA help, unlike most your peers. so if you insist on having people who don't know what the **** they're doing produce your music and direct your videos, your ass is going to be out of the picture by next year, and people will say "remember that 2-year wonder with the hairbow?"
It's fine to want to do things yourself but THE EDGE OF TRAGEDY video shows you're not capable : /
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Don't forget..
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
So here comes the page-long essay, moments after I decried someone for posting page-long essays. You probably don't give a ****, but I needed to say it and I wanted to say it in this thread. This is my Celestial moment, minus the self-contradicting anger.
The problem with BTW stems from Gaga herself. For better or worse, Gaga is the only major popstar whose music actually comes from her and reflects who she is. Since the release of the BTW single, people have said I'm being too hard on her, or that I'm unnecessarily negative. But based on everything Gaga was saying and doing since early 2010 ("Oh Little Monsters, it's ok that you're gay b/c God made you this way and I too was bullied but look at me now!!!!"), I knew she was gearing up to jump the shark. I didn't like who she'd become, and I sensed that her music would suffer directly as a result of that. I hoped I would end up being wrong, so I stuck around for a whole year, but I should have known better.
To be more specific, this problem with Gaga (and with BTW since, as I said, she and her music are one and the same) and the reason I can't stan for her anymore, is that the album isn't really pop. It acts like it's above pop. It's not catchy, or fun, or have huge killer hooks that make the whole world want to just dance. This is a problem for me because the first thing Gaga epicly declared when she burst onto the music scene was "POP MUSIC WILL NEVER BE LOW BROW." Did "never" mean less than 3 years? What happened to that girl? What happened to her sense of fun? Why, after such a bold declaration, is she trying to move away from pop instead of raising the bar within the pop genre? I won't even get into her now-off putting gimmicks. I said page-long essay, not book.
Gaga can act like she's totally unpredictable all she wants, but she's become anything but. I told Perez last fall that based simply on her interviews and videos, BTW was gearing up to be a self-indulgent, fun-free, preachy, bloated mess. At the time he didn't respond, but the other day he told me that he met up with her, remembered my comment, and told her that people miss her former sense of fun, charm and playfulness. He wanted to put it into her consciousness and make sure she's at least aware. So as a fan I've done my part. But I can't act like some other fanbases, and keep clinging to her simply because I'm attached to her. I can't act like those who insist "Godney" is still exciting, when she now offers nothing more than some Ke$ha-lite beats expertly engineered by her fancy team. Or that "Beysus" has an epic new single sooo much better than the demo, when it's actually another sampled mess and the most horrendous aural assault since I can't remember when. Try as I may, I can't be passionate about Lady Gaga anymore and I have to be honest instead of pretending - I was born this way after all and Gaga would want me to be true to myself and honor my e-vomit . Deep down though, I'll always have a spot for her and root for her, since I can't totally erase the last 3 years from consciousness and act like she didn't have a huge effect on me.
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nnnnn  She was a legend 
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Does anyone have the tea on the relationship between Xtina and Little Monsters in 2010...? Confused.
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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Ah... memories of back when she used to be good. 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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This is the Gaga I fell in love with. I will always appreciate and love her because her music helped me during my darkest times. She was truly a spectacle during those days.
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by Negev
J a y
Stop. Born this Way was a bad album with a couple of salvageable songs. The rest was pure trash (let's not discuss the bonus tracks).
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AP was miles better.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by B'Day
Does anyone have the tea on the relationship between Xtina and Little Monsters in 2010...? Confused.
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A lot of xtina stans blamed Bionic's flopping on Gaga and The Fame
They REALLY do think that Gaga sabotaged Xtina's career 
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