Discussion: New York first to offer tuition free college - Page 3

Wonderland

Bernie won

LuLuDrops

California next please

we stan for Ds (

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Saeju

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Originally posted by Salacious

That's great, but none of the public universities and colleges in New York are highly ranked. This program doesn't apply to great private schools like Columbia, Cornell, and NYU. Just some food for thought.

Well, I wonder how this would apply to Cornell because 2 or 3 of their undergraduate colleges are sponsored by the SUNY system. Currently, if you are a New York resident you get a reduced price if you go to one of those Cornell undergrad colleges.

mikeyace16

Queen York setting the standard as usual

Tymps.

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Originally posted by Salacious

That's great, but none of the public universities and colleges in New York are highly ranked. This program doesn't apply to great private schools like Columbia, Cornell, and NYU. Just some food for thought.

They're still really good

sickfalsetto

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Originally posted by Salacious

That's great, but none of the public universities and colleges in New York are highly ranked. This program doesn't apply to great private schools like Columbia, Cornell, and NYU. Just some food for thought.

This is so not true! We still have decent colleges under SUNY and CUNY and their science students are as competitive as those from the likes of Columbia and NYU. Not to mention some of their science classes are equally hard!

People are always so quick to belittle public colleges

Quiqui4eva

NYU for Graduate school confirmed

Communion

They should also work to limit how much public institutions can inflate tuition to not abuse this.

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Originally posted by Salacious

That's great, but none of the public universities and colleges in New York are highly ranked. This program doesn't apply to great private schools like Columbia, Cornell, and NYU. Just some food for thought.

Imagine being so removed from the lives of poor people that you look at free education and go "hmmm, but they're not prestigious". Jesus Christ.

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Originally posted by chilicheese01

And who will be paying for it?

My school already offers me free education, but I needed to work my ass off for it.

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Under the proposal, the state would complete students’ tuition payments by supplementing existing state and federal grant programs — essentially covering the balance, though administration officials said some students could have their entire four-year education covered.

iamvladd

Don't take Cuomo at his word; it'd have to pass the Legislature first. Cute gesture to dems/liberals for his 2018 election (would be his 3rd term).

ABEL-o-matic

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Originally posted by Cheetos

This "tuition-free" system sounds oddly familiar..... almost like someone's campaign plan in 2016........

Let's go get those free Liberal Arts, Journalism, Gender Studies degrees girls!

Salacious

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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA

They're great. Americans don't know how good their universities are until they go elsewhere and see that higher education here is truly great, even at public schools.

The North is truly great. It'll take decades for the South to catch up

I know, but I'm not comparing New York's public universities to international universities. I'm comparing them to other prestigious public universities.

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Originally posted by Saeju

Well, I wonder how this would apply to Cornell because 2 or 3 of their undergraduate colleges are sponsored by the SUNY system. Currently, if you are a New York resident you get a reduced price if you go to one of those Cornell undergrad colleges.

I think nothing would change as this free tuition only applies to public schools.

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Originally posted by sickfalsetto

This is so not true! We still have decent colleges under SUNY and CUNY and their science students are as competitive as those from the likes of Columbia and NYU. Not to mention some of their science classes are equally hard!

People are always so quick to belittle public colleges

Yes, it is. New York's public colleges and universities are not highly ranked.

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Originally posted by Communion

Imagine being so removed from the lives of poor people that you look at free education and go "hmmm, but they're not prestigious". Jesus Christ.

There are multiple ways high-achieving low-income students are able to afford prestigious private schools, which offer generous financial aid packages. If I were poor I would look elsewhere.

Adonis

Who cares eventually those schools are not competitive now? They will be competitive eventually and if everyone is educated in NY we can raise the bar for everyone.

nuclear

Not this happen literally the year after I graduate

LoKoPaNdA

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Originally posted by Salacious

I know, but I'm not comparing New York's public universities to international universities. I'm comparing them to other prestigious public universities.

Were you? Because I think you mentioned the really prestigious private ones like Columbia.

Depending on people's plans, it does not matter where they go to undergrad. Someone going for a nursing or engineering degree will find a job regardless, and someone planning to go to grad school or professional school can definitely attend undergrad at one of the "less prestigious" public colleges.

Salacious

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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA

Were you? Because I think you mentioned the really prestigious private ones like Columbia.

Depending on people's plans, it does not matter where they go to undergrad. Someone going for a nursing or engineering degree will find a job regardless, and someone planning to go to grad school or professional school can definitely attend undergrad at one of the "less prestigious" public colleges.

I'm comparing the public schools in New York to other schools in the US. You were talking about international schools, but that really doesn't matter here, because most Americans aren't going to international schools, and they don't need to. I mentioned Columbia, Cornell, and NYU to point out that they don't qualify for this tuition waiver.

It matters a lot, actually. The weight and network your school carries drastically changes your future. Finding a job is different than finding a good job. Most selective companies recruit students from selective schools. Going to graduate school is different than going to a great graduate school.