Gurl everyone except u knows that Nicki was just bitter that night lol!


Taylor was pretty dumb tho when she decided to coincide her squad crap with the release of Bad Blood knowing full well that she had a feud with that other gorl. Play your cards right next era, Ms. Swift!

Because they are not? It's like that with all south european countries, whether it be Italy, Greece, Turkey or Spain. There are light skinned people but also people with a darker skin tone.

I'm South European and I would never consider myself White.

Ariana is Italian, not white!

y'all are a mess she's white.

and cause Ariana doesn't use feminism as a prop to promote herself, but rather just acts and speaks out against sexism because it actively makes her mad.

Taylor seems to only speak out against sexism when it benefits her

Because she's Filipino! A Filipina feminist!

those americans claiming italians aren't white though

This. They must not know what a white feminist is.

This was actually answered pretty adequately on the first page so why is this thread so long

Taylor Swift's "feminism" is entirely self-serving and boils down to complaining to 3rd parties about being somehow somewhere mistreated. Ariana Grande, on the other hand, created an image of a person who genuinely cares about social issues (that includes struggles of poc), and let's not forget her calling out sexists in their face.

she has pale skin naturally, she just spray tan

This Ariana isn't white thing was cute at first, but now I think some of you are really taking it seriously.

Are you absolute morons?

Because she says things like this, "I have a long list of things I'd like to change … I think, judgement in general. Intolerance, meanness, double standards, misogyny, racism, sexism. You know, all that ****. There's lots we've got to get started on. That's what we need to focus on. We've got work to do."

And doesn't just complain when it's an issue that pertains only to herself.

Ariana supports other women, the other one who makes amazing music as well doesn't.

I understand that you would prefer a simple world where you can neatly place everyone in big boxes. But it doesn't work like that. The concept of "white" is a social invention and arbitrarily groups together vastly different ethnic groups and cultures that have nothing to do with each other.