The human race! Race is a social construct depending on where you live. The definition for 'white' and 'black' in Brazil and the US for instance is different.

I don't know much about "race" biologically but isn't it like a continuum (like languages)? Like, somewhere between Europe and Asia for instance people look like they're neither fully Asian nor fully white, they look in-between. Like the Uygur people of China are of Turkish ancestry but also have intermarried with the Chinese for centuries so everybody is mixed race. I always found stuff like that interesting.

If you're going to use sassy shade and meaningless responses (i.e. that don't answer my questions or disprove that I said) to explain a concept to me it won't convince me of anything, except that you're not capable of explaining your thinking. That doesn't work for anyone. I'll be happy to agree with you and be receptive to new information, only if you give me something that makes sense to work with. On a scale of 1-10, how convincing is:

? I don't think you would agree with you either.


This is fair. I think my understanding of 'race' and its use is probably misguided. Whether or not the biology matches perfectly to the human system of classification is a different story then, and that's probably where your argument comes from. So I guess I agree.

I don't think it exists scientifically speaking

If you say race is a social construct, then breeds, subspecies, species, genus, family, order, etc. are also social constructs.

If East Asians, caucasians and sub-Saharan Africans were left separated for another 100,000 years they would have evolved into 3 different species.

At one time in the past there would have been two "races" of our ancestors, one that would eventually evolve to become chimpanzees and the other which would eventually evolve to become humans.

All humans had a common ancestor too, races are a manifestation of different paths of evolution in different populations of humans over a "short" period of time.

And, the genetic differences between the different major races of humans are larger than the genetic differences between different breeds of dogs. You can take a DNA test of a dead person and tell what race they were, you can even tell what race a dead human was from their bone structure and skull shape (not only humans, with other dead animals as well).

I think if Neanderthals were alive today they'd probably be living in society with us and we'd probably be calling them a different "race".

As of right now different races are genetically different so yea

"sassy shade" "Meaningless responses" ? lmao there was none of that in my post. If I felt like "shading" you I wouldn't have bothered to "inform" you at all.

I responded by posting a well written and thought out article. I'm just not in the mood to type an essay. Most people don't change their minds during online "arguments" or "discussion", so i'm weary. But i'm glad that you took the time to read it.

Basically.

This too.

Like we can talk about biology until we're blue the face, but when considering that, that means at one point, we had British people saying Irish people were completely different than them in terms of biological race since they were denying that the Irish (or Italians, etc.) could be white, etc.

Even the science behind it hasn't stopped humans from constructing it into something stupid.

Clearly the idea that people of different "races" are incredibly different in terms of genetics, IQ, etc. isn't true, but race is a way of separating people based on phenotype (similar to separating people by eye color, height, etc.) i'm not sure how that's a "social construct"?

oh wow, this is an interesting read!

Scientists say no.

The way of separating each group varies based on cultures.

White Jews aren't considered white in much of Europe.
A white Argentinian man may not be considered white in parts of the US.

The way "race" is deconstructed in places across Asia or Africa may rely more on birth place than skin tone.

Again, it's been said over and over.
Irish, Italians and Jews have all gone from being considered "non-white" into transcending back into whiteness. Why? They didn't magically get "whiter" - the construction of what is what race and what is "race" is constructed by cultural context of the time.

Yes, like dogs.

NO, it is man made. disgusting humans.

oh boy

why do I feel like you believe in Mongoloid, Negroid, and Caucasoid while living in 2016?

NO

It's the other way around. Dog breeds are the product of selective/artificial breeding.There is much more genetic variation between dog breeds than there are between different human "races".

And also, there is actually more genetic variation within a "race" than there is between "races".

Race has been created around similar phenotypes and cultural, historical, and political distinctions worldwide. It is not scientific. There are no set rules. It's all very blurry and an arbitrary mess.

STOP. You can take a genetic ancestry test and determine where they come from GEOGRAPHICALLY. You compare the DNA to the DNA of clusters of people who reside in different regions globally. Forensic anthropologists can detect minor differences between skull shape and bone structure, YES. But, it is due to genetic variation based on primarily GEOGRAPHY & CLIMATE. And with that in mind, the "race" of the individual can likely be assumed.

Neanderthals are becoming more and more acknowlegded to be a different species from Homo sapiens. White, black, Asian, etc are NOT different species or subspecies.

Yes, marathon race.