That "validity" might be a little subjective. I'd bet the in majority of any of these so called ****ed countries would gladly move to the US given the choice. I know ...arrogant American. This argument is just stupid. If your gay where would you rather live? I know ...Trump is going to be throwing gays off buildings soon. How bout if your a women...pretty soon Trump will revoke your driving and voting privileges. This is stupid beyond stupid. There are people on this site that are delusional. The US isn't perfect but for the most part it has advanced the concept of freedom and democracy. The US constitution lays out better than anything the concepts and importance of individual freedom and the limits on government. The importance and ramifications of this cannot be overstated. if you don't have the vision to see this your world view is probably warped beyond repair.

North Korea, Somalia

US CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY & GLOBAL TERRORISM


US Use of Weapons of Mass Destruction

The indiscriminate use of bombs by the US, usually outside a declared war
situation, for wanton destruction, for no military objectives, whose
targets and victims are civilian populations, or what we now call
"collateral damage."

• Japan (1945)
• China (1945-46)
• Korea & China (1950-53)
• Guatemala (1954, 1960, 1967-69)
• Indonesia (1958)
• Cuba (1959-61)
• Congo (1964)
• Peru (1965)
• Laos (1964-70)
• Vietnam (1961-1973)
• Cambodia (1969-70)
• Grenada (1983)
• Lebanon (1983-84)
• Libya (1986)
• El Salvador (1980s)
• Nicaragua (1980s)
• Iran (1987)
• Panama (1989)
• Iraq (1991-2000)
• Kuwait (1991)
• Somalia (1993)
• Bosnia (1994-95)
• Sudan (1998)
• Afghanistan (1998)
• Pakistan (1998)
• Yugoslavia (1999)
• Bulgaria (1999)
• Macedonia (1999)

US Use of Chemical & Biological Weapons
The US has refused to sign Conventions against the development and use of
chemical and biological weapons, and has either used or tested (without
informing the civilian populations) these weapons in the following
locations abroad:

• Bahamas (late 1940s-mid-1950s)
• Canada (1953)
• China and Korea (1950-53)
• Korea (1967-69)
• Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia (1961-1970)
• Panama (1940s-1990s)
• Cuba (1962, 69, 70, 71, 81, 96)

And the US has tested such weapons on US civilian populations, without
their knowledge, in the following locations:

• Watertown, NY and US Virgin Islands (1950)
• SF Bay Area (1950, 1957-67)
• Minneapolis (1953)
• St. Louis (1953)
• Washington, DC Area (1953, 1967)
• Florida (1955)
• Savannah GA/Avon Park, FL (1956-58)
• New York City (1956, 1966)
• Chicago (1960)

And the US has encouraged the use of such weapons, and provided the
technology to develop such weapons in various nations abroad, including:

• Egypt
• South Africa
• Iraq

US Political and Military Interventions since 1945
The US has launched a series of military and political interventions since
1945, often to install puppet regimes, or alternatively to engage in
political actions such as smear campaigns, sponsoring or targeting
opposition political groups (depending on how they served US interests),
undermining political parties, sabotage and terror campaigns, and so forth.
It has done so in nations such as:

• China (1945-51)
  
• South Africa (1960s-1980s)
  
• France (1947)
  
• Bolivia (1964-75)
  
• Marshall Islands (1946-58)
  
• Australia (1972-75)
  
• Italy (1947-1975)
  
• Iraq (1972-75)
  
• Greece (1947-49)
  
• Portugal (1974-76)
  
• Philippines (1945-53)
  
• East Timor (1975-99)
  
• Korea (1945-53)
  
• Ecuador (1975)
  
• Albania (1949-53)
  
• Argentina (1976)
  
• Eastern Europe (1948-56)
  
• Pakistan (1977)
  
• Germany (1950s)
  
• Angola (1975-1980s)
  
• Iran (1953)
  
• Jamaica (1976)
  
• Guatemala (1953-1990s)
  
• Honduras (1980s)
  
• Costa Rica (mid-1950s, 1970-71)
  
• Nicaragua (1980s)
  
• Middle East (1956-58)
  
• Philippines (1970s-90s)
  
• Indonesia (1957-58)
  
• Seychelles (1979-81)
  
• Haiti (1959)
  
• South Yemen (1979-84)
  
• Western Europe (1950s-1960s)
  
• South Korea (1980)
  
• Guyana (1953-64)
  
• Chad (1981-82)
  
• Iraq (1958-63)
  
• Grenada (1979-83)
  
• Vietnam (1945-53)
  
• Suriname (1982-84)
  
• Cambodia (1955-73)
  
• Libya (1981-89)
  
• Laos (1957-73)
  
• Fiji (1987)
  
• Thailand (1965-73)
  
• Panama (1989)
  
• Ecuador (1960-63)
  
• Afghanistan (1979-92)
  
• Congo (1960-65, 1977-78)
  
• El Salvador (1980-92)
  
• Algeria (1960s)
  
• Haiti (1987-94)
  
• Brazil (1961-64)
  
• Bulgaria (1990-91)
  
• Peru (1965)
  
• Albania (1991-92)
  
• Dominican Republic (1963-65)
  
• Somalia (1993)
  
• Cuba (1959-present)
  
• Iraq (1990s)
  
• Indonesia (1965)
  
• Peru (1990-present)
  
• Ghana (1966)
  
• Mexico (1990-present)
  
• Uruguay (1969-72)
  
• Colombia (1990-present)
  
• Chile (1964-73)
  
• Yugoslavia (1995-99)
  
• Greece (1967-74)

US Perversions of Foreign Elections
The US has specifically intervened to rig or distort the outcome of foreign
elections, and sometimes engineered sham “demonstration” elections to ward
off accusations of government repression in allied nations in the US sphere
of influence. These sham elections have often installed or maintained in
power repressive dictators who have victimized their populations. Such
practices have occurred in nations such as:

• Philippines (1950s)
• Italy (1948-1970s)
• Lebanon (1950s)
• Indonesia (1955)
• Vietnam (1955)
• Guyana (1953-64)
• Japan (1958-1970s)
• Nepal (1959)
• Laos (1960)
• Brazil (1962)
• Dominican Republic (1962)
• Guatemala (1963)
• Bolivia (1966)
• Chile (1964-70)
• Portugal (1974-75)
• Australia (1974-75)
• Jamaica (1976)
• El Salvador (1984)
• Panama (1984, 89)
• Nicaragua (1984, 90)
• Haiti (1987, 88)
• Bulgaria (1990-91)
• Albania (1991-92)
• Russia (1996)
• Mongolia (1996)
• Bosnia (1998)

US Versus World at the United Nations
The US has repeatedly acted to undermine peace and human rights initiatives
at the United Nations, routinely voting against hundreds of UN resolutions
and treaties. The US easily has the worst record of any nation on not
supporting UN treaties. In almost all of its hundreds of “no” votes, the US
was the “sole” nation to vote no (among the 100-130 nations that usually
vote), and among only 1 or 2 other nations voting no the rest of the time.
Here’s a representative sample of US votes from 1978-1987:

US Is the Sole “No” Vote on Resolutions or Treaties

• For aid to underdeveloped nations
• For the promotion of developing nation exports
• For UN promotion of human rights
• For protecting developing nations in trade agreements
• For New International Economic Order for underdeveloped nations
• For development as a human right
• Versus multinational corporate operations in South Africa
• For cooperative models in developing nations
• For right of nations to economic system of their choice
• Versus chemical and biological weapons (at least 3 times)
• Versus Namibian apartheid
• For economic/standard of living rights as human rights
• Versus apartheid South African aggression vs. neighboring states (2 times)
• Versus foreign investments in apartheid South Africa
• For world charter to protect ecology
• For anti-apartheid convention
• For anti-apartheid convention in international sports
• For nuclear test ban treaty (at least 2 times)
• For prevention of arms race in outer space
• For UNESCO-sponsored new world information order (at least 2 times)
• For international law to protect economic rights
• For Transport & Communications Decade in Africa
• Versus manufacture of new types of weapons of mass destruction
• Versus naval arms race
• For Independent Commission on Disarmament & Security Issues
• For UN response mechanism for natural disasters
• For the Right to Food
• For Report of Committee on Elimination of Racial Discrimination
• For UN study on military development
• For Commemoration of 25th anniversary of Independence for Colonial Countries
• For Industrial Development Decade in Africa
• For interdependence of economic and political rights
• For improved UN response to human rights abuses
• For protection of rights of migrant workers
• For protection against products harmful to health and the environment
• For a Convention on the Rights of the Child
• For training journalists in the developing world
• For international cooperation on third world debt
• For a UN Conference on Trade & Development

US Is 1 of Only 2 “No” Votes on Resolutions or Treaties

• For Palestinian living conditions/rights (at least 8 times)
• Versus foreign intervention into other nations
• For a UN Conference on Women
• Versus nuclear test explosions (at least 2 times)
• For the non-use of nuclear weapons vs. non-nuclear states
• For a Middle East nuclear free zone
• Versus Israeli nuclear weapons (at least 2 times)
• For a new world international economic order
• For a trade union conference on sanctions vs. South Africa
• For the Law of the Sea Treaty
• For economic assistance to Palestinians
• For UN measures against fascist activities and groups
• For international cooperation on money/finance/debt/trade/development
• For a Zone of Peace in the South Atlantic
• For compliance with Intl Court of Justice decision for Nicaragua vs. US.
• **For a conference and measures to prevent international terrorism
• (including its underlying causes)
• For ending the trade embargo vs. Nicaragua

US Is 1 of Only 3 “No” Votes on Resolutions and Treaties

• Versus Israeli human rights abuses (at least 6 times)
• Versus South African apartheid (at least 4 times)
• Versus return of refugees to Israel
• For ending nuclear arms race (at least 2 times)
• For an embargo on apartheid South Africa
• For South African liberation from apartheid (at least 3 times)
• For the independence of colonial nations
• For the UN Decade for Women
• Versus harmful foreign economic practices in colonial territories
• For a Middle East Peace Conference
• For ending the embargo of Cuba (at least 10 times)

In addition, the US has:

• Repeatedly withheld its dues from the UN
• Twice left UNESCO because of its human rights initiatives
• Twice left the International Labor Organization for its workers rights
• initiatives
• Refused to renew the Antiballistic Missile Treaty
• Refused to sign the Kyoto Treaty on global warming
• Refused to back the World Health Organization’s ban on infant formula abuses
• Refused to sign the Anti-Biological Weapons Convention
• Refused to sign the Convention against the use of land mines
• Refused to participate in the UN Conference Against Racism in Durban
• Been one of the last nations in the world to sign the UN Covenant on Political & Civil Rights (30 years after its creation)
• Refused to sign the UN Covenant on Economic & Social Rights
• Opposed the emerging new UN Covenant on the Rights to Peace, Development & Environmental Protection

Sampling of Deaths From US Military Interventions & Propping Up Corrupt Dictators (using the most conservative estimates)

Nicaragua
30,000 dead

Brazil
100,000 dead

Korea
4 million dead

Guatemala
200,000 dead

Honduras
20,000 dead

El Salvador
63,000 dead

Argentina
40,000 dead

Bolivia
10,000 dead

Uruguay
10,000 dead

Ecuador
10,000 dead

Peru
10,000 dead

Iraq
1.3 million dead

Iran
30,000 dead

Sudan
8-10,000 dead

Colombia
50,000 dead

Panama
5,000 dead

Japan
140,000 dead

Afghanistan
10,000 dead

Somalia
5000 dead

Philippines
150,000 dead

Haiti
100,000 dead

Dominican Republic
10,000 dead

Libya
500 dead

Macedonia
1000 dead

South Africa
10,000 dead

Pakistan
10,000 dead

Palestine
40,000 dead

Indonesia
1 million dead

East Timor
1/3-1/2 of total population

Greece
10,000 dead

Laos
600,000 dead

Cambodia
1 million dead

Angola
300,000 dead

Grenada
500 dead

Congo
2 million dead

Egypt
10,000 dead

Vietnam
1.5 million dead

Chile
50,000 dead


Other Lethal US Interventions
CIA Terror Training Manuals
Development and distribution of training manuals for foreign military
personnel or foreign nationals, including instructions on assassination,
subversion, sabotage, population control, torture, repression,
psychological torture, death squads, etc.

Specific Torture Campaigns
Creation and launching of direct US campaigns to support torture as an
instrument of terror and social control for governments in Greece, Iran,
Vietnam, Bolivia, Uruguay, Brazil, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, and Panama

Supporting and Harboring Terrorists
The promotion, protection, arming or equipping of terrorists such as:

. Klaus Barbie and other German Nazis, and Italian and Japanese fascists,
after WW II

. Manual Noriega (Panama), Saddam Hussein (Iraq), Rafael Trujillo
(Dominican Republic), Osama bin Laden (Afghanistan), and others whose
terrorism has come back to haunt us

. Running the Higher War College (Brazil) and first School of the Americas
(Panama), which gave US training to repressors, death squad members, and
torturers (the second School of the Americas is still running at Ft.
Benning GA)

. Providing asylum for Cuban, Salvadoran, Guatemalan, Haitian, Chilean,
Argentinian, Iranian, South Vietnamese and other terrorists, dictators, and
torturers

Assassinating World Leaders
Using assassination as a tool of foreign policy, wherein the CIA has
initiated assassination attempts against at least 40 foreign heads of state
(some several times) in the last 50 years, a number of which have been
successful, such as: Patrice Lumumba (Congo), Rafael Trujillo (Dominican
Republic), Ngo Dihn Diem (Vietnam) Salvador Allende (Chile)

Arms Trade & US Military Presence
. The US is the world’s largest seller of weapons abroad, arming
dictators, militaries, and terrorists that repress or victimize their
populations, and fueling scores of violent conflicts around the globe

. The US is the world’s largest provider of live land mines which, even in
peacetime, kill or injure at least several people around the world each day

. The US has military bases in at least 50 nations around the world, which
have led to frequent victimization of local populations.

. The US military has been bombing one Middle Eastern or Muslim nation or
another almost continuously since 1983, including Lebanon, Libya, Syria,
Iran, the Sudan, Afghanistan, and Iraq (almost daily bombings since 1991)
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seems like this only goes through from ~1945 to the the end of the '90s; think of all the US military interventions, bombing campaigns, and international political disruption it initiated before and has initiated since then. this list doesn't include domestic state violence either, like slavery or Native American genocide. death toll numbers are difficult to pin down (for a number of reasons, but often because of US obfuscation or propaganda). i'd say this still gives a pretty good sampling of the atrocities committed by the largest terrorist state in world history --

Please refer to (Cole)'s post on this thread.

First of all, what you say is somehow delusional.

Many people in the world are quite blinded by the perfectly well done promotion of the USA (through medias, entertainment, businesses, etc.), making many people think that the country is the best thing ever.

The thruth is that there are other countries where human rights are much more respected, enforced and where laws actually give many many more benefits (rights, protection, benefits) to the population. Even if Trump doesnt revoke all those rights you mentionned (I sincerly hope for you guys that he won't), the USA still sits very far in the nations with great social/societal peace or balance and of rights and benefits to its population.

The US constitution vs its application is very distinctive.. Its funny how you say that you guys have such a good 'individual freedom', with having your government able to infiltrate anything and everything, to access ALL your data and information, having so many so called "security and law enforcement" systems "for your own good". That you are taught (not all of you for sure), that having guns equals safety.

...

Worst country in human history.

The worst to live in or the worst for the world?

Omg clock the USA, user (Cole) we are truly a blight to the planet

Of modern era, definitely.

Murica

Slay, Cole :*

America won, sorry fomos

Anyways, my answer is England because it gave us Cheryl Cole

Somalia, North Korea, Venezuela.

*sent on ATRL, an American website*
Nn, thanks for the ad revenue

Prolly somewhere in the Western Asia, Africa or something...

at that US Clocking!

A lot of the ones you already mentioned, but I also think India is up there as well

North Korea, Venezuela and United States.

I love the USA as a place to visit, but I hate the way of thinking they (or most of them) have.

damn

USA has a v questionable history against the world like all other big western nations, but to live in? nah it's not the worst on a world scale but it certainly has room for improvement

The worst to live: Malawi
The worst government/system to the world: United States