Originally posted by UFO

alkjagk I feel like the general idea of freedom of speech is so warped nowadays, I'm scared to say anything it gives me legit anxiety.
But anyway, I basically agree with you. Each culture can be seen as valid but that does not necessarily make what they believe "right". We should be able to criticise their beliefs and not excuse what they do just because it's their culture, especially when what they're doing or believing in is infringing on someone else's human right. I also believe that what we see as right or wrong is a result of human advancements in civilisation which is basically what you said but in a different way. I'm still conflicted though. The pessimist (or maybe the realist) inside of me is saying that it's not realistic and these terrible things will continue to exist it sounds depressing but I honestly have no hope for this world. Even if we do take out the "cons" of the world, wouldn't that just result in more problems? Isn't the idea of a perfect utopia just as messed up?

The one thing I know for definite is that I have trust issues
Bottom line: Cultural relativism does exist, in my opinion, but I don't agree with it at all and I don't think it should be accepted. It gives bad people the permission to continue to do bad things and I'm definitely not here for that. I believe it exists but I don't believe in it (if that makes sense). People shouldn't be given a pass for torturing other people etc etc. That's something I do NOT agree with.

Originally posted by ahdm

Kind of:

I agree in certains aspects, I mean, the politics systems, cultures, laws etc. are created by very imperct humans;
we are all told what is right, wrong and how should we behave since we are born, therefore I believe that when you take into account culture sometimes it is so hard or perhaps even impossible to judge someone as good or evil or to judge them as being morally right or wrong.

I do believe that no culture should be exempt of criticism, that's just problematic and it makes it so hard to change and progress.

And, while it's difficult to judge the person, it is possible to judge the act itself. If it is something that causes harm to them or to somebody else then it shouldn't just get a pass for being their culture.

Originally posted by That Britney Face

Not at all. People being closed minded and easily offended about this bull**** is keeping people away who might genuinely love parts of your culture.

I'm so tired of everything being "cultural appropriation". Go hide in your little hole if you wanna keep everything to yourself.

Originally posted by VOSS

No, some cultures are definitely superior to others

Originally posted by M André

Well, there is always going to be conflict in the world sadly but we can ensure our future is better. I mean think how much progress we have done in the past 50 years, sexism has overcome in a lot of countries, homophobia is being fighthing right now, racism is seem as an inmoral, etc. And of course it isn't easy, changing a culture takes ages to do. Even if you have all the support from the goverment or make laws to impose that change it will still be a really slow process.

The main problem with culural marxism is that it blinds people from the flaws of other cultures and it makes any change people within the culture want to make impossible to be done. And that's my main concern with this ideology since it can be a stone in the way for the people who want changes aimed towards equality and the establisment of human rights. Like say a woman lives in a country with sexism laws that don't let her get a job nor study. The fight she has to overcome is then overlooked by other people since they believe in cultural relativism so nothing she does to try to expose the injustice she lives in is "worthy of atenttion", at the end she will either have to continue to live oppressed or fight in a violently which won't end well for her.

Originally posted by ahdm

I loved reading your posts, you seem like such a nice person M Andre too, nice that you both share your opinions and don't get defensive at all.

Originally posted by M André

I agree, sadly when this ideology goes to extremes it can be really hard to gasp. Like I had this lecture at my digital culutre class that said how we should tolerate some things and be open to them when we didn't understand the main context of it. (refering to the marriage of children in middle east countries.)

Originally posted by UFO

That is true! Change takes a long time to unravel but - in the end - it is worthwhile. I agree that cultural relativism can lead to people not addressing the real issue at hand. For example, it can make it more difficult for people in those cultures to fight the injustices set against them.

What I dislike - in particular - are how some people are conditioned by their culture to excuse each and every belief no matter how problematic it may be. Staying true to your culture is one thing but failing to see the blatant issues with your culture is something else entirely, especially when it becomes damaging to others.


MESS but tbh that example is a prime example of how cultural relativism is a bad thing and why we SHOULD criticise cultures that oppress people. That is an extreme example tho, I agree.


Thanks! I try my best It's interesting to see things from different perspectives tbh. People should try it more often.