Originally posted by Nialler

Sounds like sour grapes. Tilda reached out to her and now Margaret is making their discussion public to get some attention. Not a good look.

Originally posted by Eternium

The point of casting Tilda Swinton was to avoid the stereotype of the Dragon Lady. They did well in this instance.

And it's so ****ing annoying to hear people bitch about the exclusion of Asians in media. You refuse to buy Asian music products or even stream music videos and songs. Why do you think Hollywood is going to spend some $200M in the hopes you'll drop $10 on a movie ticket when your racist ass won't support Asian artists for free?

Originally posted by Newt

There's no evidence that those were ALL of the email exchanges. Moreover, the Margret article doesn't explicitly say that the whole conversation happened via email. It's possible part of the correspondence was over the phone/in person/etc

IDK, I'm not ready to let this go

Originally posted by Artemisia

Tilda doesn't come off very well in those emails, but Margaret is totally wrong for mischaracterizing the discussion they had. Be forthcoming if you have an opinion or don't want to talk at all, there was no need to accede to Tilda's request for a private conversation and then throw her under the bus.

Originally posted by A Little Unruly

What kinda blissful ignorance It's crazy how people will excuse away ANYTHING if they simply think someone is nice

Originally posted by Newt

Girl shut up, I don't even know who this Margaret is, sit down

Originally posted by MrLovett

How exactly does Tilda not come off well in those emails? She was trying to start an open and honest discussion about a topic she is not well versed in, with someone who lives and works in that world. She was very respectful and they had a decent back and forth with ideas, whilst both trying to work together to push diverse casting further.

Margaret comes off HORRIFICALLY in this situation because she's completely misrepresented what happened here. I was so shocked with Tilda until I read that email exchange. Margaret has completely lied about what happened and has hindered her cause unnecessarily, making it look like open conversations with those who are wanting to understand more are going to be labelled as "weird" and be misrepresented.

Originally posted by Artemisia

In the second email she sent, it came off to me that she was just talking at Margaret explaining all the reasons she believes the movie is OK from a diversity standpoint and that she's a good white person who cares about diversity and doesn't deserve vilification. Like she was just trying to absolve herself of the guilt rather than truly empathizing with the motivation behind the outrage.



This part here specifically - she did accept to play an Asian role. It is not a misunderstanding. The writers altering the source material so that the Ancient One would no longer be Asian but instead someone of Celtic origin is exactly what whitewashing is. Notwithstanding the efforts the creators made to ameliorate the situation, this is how it was perceived by many Asian people.

Originally posted by konaa

Tilda looked a whole ass boo boo the fool in that movie

gather her margaret

Originally posted by Artemisia

This part here specifically - she did accept to play an Asian role. It is not a misunderstanding. The writers altering the source material so that the Ancient One would no longer be Asian but instead someone of Celtic origin is exactly what whitewashing is. Notwithstanding the efforts the creators made to ameliorate the situation, this is how it was perceived by many Asian people.