Yes, and yes.

Well that's autoritarism at best, fascism at worst.

I'm not for those kind of therapy but I'm wondering why we're all so against it.

People want to change their sexuality because society tell them their society is wrong.

But people change the way they look (plastic surgery) because society tell them they don't fit beauty standards, and it's become quite socially acceptable to have plastic surgery

Why the difference ?

In my interpretation of it, being "born gay" is synonymous with developing that sexual attraction naturally.

You may not be automatically gay at birth, but the course in which you became gay is NATURAL. Which is why conversion therapy is a problem. It gives the perception that it can be changed, which it cannot.

this is wrong on so many levels

conversation therapy cannot 'cure' anyone, it's not effective and anyone who seeks it out clearly has mental troubles and issues accepting themselves. these people need help accepting and loving themselves instead of giving them the option to further hurt themselves.

Adults can do it if they want. If some people want to try it them let them be. It's their choice.

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The OP is a blatant misanthrope. I don't even know why some of you guys are even trying to reason.

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Bad analogy. Beauty standards are very broad and subjective, a certain type of beauty, even if deemed as wrong, is just different as in there's available fulfillment a person can achieve in various beauty standards. Different beauty standards share so many patterns (nose type, eye color, skin color, hair type, body type, etc) that they're attainable for people in all races and conditions. Now, if you completely shun a beauty standard that's called racism and you know where that discussion goes. Also, the changes in surgery can range from very subtle to drastic in a huge spectrum, so vast that it exceeds the spectrum of sexualities in a sort of Sun to Earth ratio, there isn't as much sexualities as physical subtleties in which beauty can be measured, again, so broadly and subjectively.

Sexuality just can't be wrong, it is what it is, it's even more rigid than gender itself, it can't be changed with hormones or surgery like a gender transition. Sexuality, as more and more evidence shows, is linked with genetic nature. Subject a person to such a therapy is just puting them in a state of delusion that can bring so many disorders that it can be very prejudicial to them. Depression, anxiety, low self-esteem (from the lack of self-acceptance and effectiveness of the therapy), loss of confidence, etc. You just can't do that to a person, the only way to go is to try to make the person contently accept their sexuality and help them incorporate it healthily in their lifestyle.

Conversion therapy is bad. It's as medieval as to try to cure syphilis with mercury.

Facism? Because I don't believe that we should offer a service that will do more harm than good (if any good at all)?

By your logic, razor blades and hand pistols should be offered suicidal people too, right?

Because it's ineffective, plain and simple. The fact that there is no ban against conversion therapy for minors in the majority of states in the US is problematic.

It's bad because science proved it's unhelpful. However, I think it's safe to assume that this topic wasn't properly examined scientifically (in modern times) due to PC so it should be researched imo.

Why is this even a question? Why is this even a thread?
That member on the first page that says you're not born gay as if there is no such thing as genes affecting human behaviour. This forum sometimes...

Because there's nothing wrong with being gay...

It's based on homophobia.

There's a reason why "straight conversion therapy" (to turn gay) doesn't exist.

Because it perpetuates the idea that this is something that works and that being gay is a choice

It only leads to more psychological disorders.

If the damage was limited to just one person I would say "knock yourself out". However, the damage hurts other men, women and children and that's where I have to draw a line in the sand on conversion therapy. Not to mention that the medical community has rejected it as a treatment outright.

Do you think people should be allowed to have surgery with a someone who isn't properly certified just because a person wants to?

It's never safe to assume anything. That's how you make obvious mistakes that could've been avoided.

It's been researched over and over and over again.