and Hillary was too far right for her own ****ing base!
the real reason she lost was that she was not able to convince her own constituents - the EXACT SAME PEOPLE WHO VOTED OBAMA IN FOR 2 TERMS - to vote for her. Hillary Clinton lost because of Democratic voter turnout, plain and simple. Some of those Democrats voted 3rd party, some voted for Trump, and some stayed home but the fact of the matter was that Trump won with fewer votes than Mitt Romney got in 2012 so the issue here was CLEARLY Hillary's inability to mobilize her own party

Did you even watch the video before posting "I agree" in your previous post?

The part you quoted from my post is not my words. That's what the British lad was claiming about the left. Learn to process your thoughts first before making yourself look like a joke (which you already are, anyway).

I'd have absolutely agreed with him if that's what he was saying. But he wasn't. He was only pointing fingers at the left for not listening while the same can be applied for the other side.

Trust me, I was an intern at two grassroot campaigns and tried reasoning with people from the right who didn't believe in the scientific evidence of climate change or had no clue of policies and ideologies that they were in favor of. It's convenient for that British guy to stand there and scream in hindsight and blame one side of the political spectrum.

I get what you're saying. I guess I took away from it that both sides are like that, but he's saying the result of Trump winning is a lot due to the left being like that and pushing people closer to the right further that direction.

this

but this guy is annoying af

Bernie wouldn't have won.

all the finger pointing at the left is really annoying. i completely agree with him on some points, i definitely think you should try and debate and argue instead of just shutting down a trump supporter. but both sides are extremely guilty. also it's different when that trump supporter is backing trump's sexist, racist, xenophobic comments like obviously there's no room for argument or debate when the person is defending blatant and evident hate

He didn't lie.

Political correctness or Newspeak is telling people that they aren't allowed to say this, that and frustrations are piling up. Till they can vent their frustrations in the voting booth.

Hillary is experienced as in cosying up with the unpopular banks, long time member of the elite,... Not relatable to the wide spread poverty in the US. More of the same isn't an interesting package. Would you buy a new car, a new phone, a new laptop,... if it only offers more of the same (apart from replacing a worn out and defect one)? If you don't vote for me, you vote for evil?

Bernie and Trump offered change.

Bernie wanted to bring more European liberties and rights in the US like how the American youth already accepted electronic music from Europe.

In America people aren't born equal, but depending on the size of dad's wallet. In Europe we abolished that system by ensuring that dad's wallet doesn't matter in having access to dentist (Without having to drive to Mexico like Katy's parents were contemplating. Will the wall stop Americans from getting affordable foreign healthcare?), access to hospitals, access to university,...

If you are born in the wrong region in the US with high unemployment rate, the only way out is joining the military, serve for years, get shot at in the Middle East and they pay college for you. The US is clearly a class society while in Europe factory worker's sons can be in the same university and fraternity with the sons of the prime minister, judges, doctors,... Not by winning grants or support by charity, but applying for subsidies as easy and reliable as filling in a tax return form.

It might be radical for American society, but there is enough poor people. Thanks to the Internet, the youth is aware that it can be better like in the other half of the West.

Now the US is going through the phase Continental Europe went through 10+ years ago when far right won in many countries and broke up the political correctness. Every party has to be more outspoken and says things as it is. Trump speaks like the first generation populist, saying a lot of offensive things. Second generation ones don't have the sharp edges, can behave and work together with the mainstream parties.

Looks like the Anglosphere has to go through that phase of development and learn how to deal with it.

I guess the finger pointing comes off wrong, because both sides are very guilty of it, I think he's just saying that this specific result of Trump winning is partially because of the way that some of the left who refuse to listen act towards the right. Just the same as if an equally as awful candidate on the left won, it would be because the right wouldn't take a second to listen to the left. If that makes any sense.

And yet the people on the right also refuse to listen to anyone who tries to reason with them and explain to them why voting for a racist, bigoted, hateful misogynist who purposefully encourages his followers to act out violently against minorities is detrimental to the well-being of our country. Every Trump voter may not be inherently racist and bigoted, but they ARE guilty of allowing and enabling racism and bigotry.

The blame game goes both ways, obviously. I don't care which way you try to spin it though. White conservatives are not the victims here. A vote for Trump is a vote to strip 50% of the US of their rights, regardless of your intent, because that is what Trump stands for. YOU may be able to ignore it because it doesn't affect you, but 50% of America cannot ignore a candidate who does not respect their lives.

Instead of blaming liberals for calling people out on their bigotry and trying to make the world more accepting, maybe they should actually listen to the minorities crying out for help and assess themselves and the situation they are in. The same goes for liberals, who need to be more understanding of alternative viewpoints, and more patient in trying to change minds.

Gee, idk. Maybe because they flagrantly support racism, sexism and homophobia?

Can people stop with this ****ing crap? Trump supporters are all adults willfully supporting a man that has said so many horrible things. I tend to think that "Don't racist, sexist or a bigot" should be life's simplest implications. I don't see why you would expect to go to another adult and ask him not to be those horrible things.

Calling a racist out for his racism should be a norm of any decent human being. I just don't get how he was saying this act of calling racist out is fueling them to be more racist? lol You would have thought a racist would be ashamed of his racism when get called out, but no, it's our fault for calling a spade a spade

It's really sad how minorities/ marginalized groups aka the victims of white supremacy and patriarchy still have to go out of their way to reason and appease racists and sexists who never care for them and explain to them why they are wrong. Sounds easy in theory but in reality, they would retort you with their typical "white privilege is a myth created by libtards" (in case anyone is wondering if they did say things like that - http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/why-liber...rivilege-myth/) or "blacks are more racists"

This British guy needs to pick up and read "Sister Outsider" by Audrey Lorde.
Like I said, it's very convenient for him to point fingers, in hindsight, at the left in a condescending manner.