Originally posted by dperkins Russia WILL attack us if Hillary somehow gets elected now. They will declare war. Putin is so obsessed with Trump and hates Hillary. He WILL start a war with us if Hillary takes office.

Originally posted by Tropez The majority did not vote for Hillary Clinton. .2% of the popular vote is not winning anything. Hillary lost an election TWICE! Clearly there is something about her people don't like. She definitely lacks the charisma and personality of Obama and Trump. There was a whole other mess too. When it comes down to it, someone of her stature, and experience should have won more votes. She failed to bring more Democrats to the polls, something Obama did. She failed to effectively promote her campaign in key states where she lost to Bernie, and like I said before. She spent more on her campaign than Trump who got bad media coverage during the last few months. She's unlikable.

Hillary: 60,828,358
Trump: 60,261,924

She won. The margin is small (but still growing as vote counts are being finalized), but she still won the most voters. It's like when Billboard publishes the margin between the #1 and #2 song in chart points on the Hot 100 - even if the margin is minimal, the #1 song is still the #1 song. Is it less impressive than a wider margin between them? Of course, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that one beat the other. Hillary beat Trump in popular votes. Was it not as impressive as we thought? Again, of course - I don't think any Democrat would negate that. But the reality is that she still won the popular vote.

Also I'd just like to make it clear that Hillary was not my choice originally. I wanted Bernie more than anyone. But when you put her (or almost anyone) up against Trump, she shines (bright like a diamond).

Originally posted by Jackson Why should we elect a bigot just to stop a bully from going to war with us? Sometimes war is necessary

Originally posted by Moonage Daydream OP left out one crucial detail though: Horace Greeley was the losing candidate in the 1872 election. Therefore it didn't matter who his electors cast their votes for because it would have made no difference in the outcome of the election. The person he lost to was Ulysses Grant. We have no precedent for a president-elect dying before the meeting of the electoral college, so it's completely up in the air as to what would happen if we're ever faced with this situation.

Originally posted by ᴇʀᴏs Hillary: 60,828,358 Trump: 60,261,924 She won.

Originally posted by ToxDuris Oh My God just give it up. She LOST. That's how Democracy works in the US.

Originally posted by ToxDuris Oh My God just give it up. She LOST. That's how Democracy works in the US.

Originally posted by Jackson Go up on that archive.gov page I posted and you'll see the EC is the most protested part of the Constitution in history. More than 700 times people have tried to change it. It'll be history sooner or later

Originally posted by Jackson Go up on that archive.gov page I posted and you'll see the EC is the most protested part of the Constitution in history. More than 700 times people have tried to change it. It'll be history sooner or later

Originally posted by ToxDuris Lol it will not be changed it's been like that for centuries. Let alone this year But hey keep dreaming and making online petitions to change it

Originally posted by Jackson Why should we elect a bigot just to stop a bully from going to war with us? Sometimes war is necessary

Originally posted by ToxDuris Lol it will not be changed it's been like that for centuries. Let alone this year But hey keep dreaming and making online petitions to change it

Originally posted by Bentley Its not going away in our lifetime and if the results were oppisite and it was in favor of Hillary they would be praising it.