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Discussion: Should society embrace the poor to steal from middle/upper?
Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Should society embrace the poor to steal from middle/upper?
I do think the poor actually suffer the most compared to middle/higher income in society. The poor work gruesome long hours with little benifits and pay while the middle/upper class are living worry free lives about paying bills and taking lavish vacations. These people go to starbucks, shop at whole foods , go out to eat at panera bread, buying premium laptops/smartphones, etc. While the lower income worker watches this everyday you ask yourself do these people even care about the less furtunate? So the next time I witness a poor person stealing, mugging and mentally abuse a middle/higher income citizen for their irresponsible spending sprees I won't feel one drop of sympathy for them. Society should encourage this behavior till income inequality is solved so the poor can breathe again.
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If the income inequality gap is reduced too much why would anyone still want to spend 6 years in medical school to become a doctor or 6 years in law school to become an attorney just to make slightly more than a Walmart employee? Society would collapse....
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by bajaboy07
I do think the poor actually suffer the most compared to middle/higher income in society. The poor work gruesome long hours with little benifits and pay while the middle/upper class are living worry free lives about paying bills and taking lavish vacations. These people go to starbucks, shop at whole foods , go out to eat at panera bread, buying premium laptops/smartphones, etc. While the lower income worker watches this everyday you ask yourself do these people even care about the less furtunate? So the next time I witness a poor person stealing, mugging and mentally abuse a middle/higher income citizen for their irresponsible spending sprees I won't feel one drop of sympathy for them. Society should encourage this behavior till income inequality is solved so the poor can breathe again.
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amazing logic! A+
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sure theres hella economic inequalities in america but the people who have loads of money usually worked pretty hard for it + deserve it 
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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girl whats your prob with whole foods, starbucks, and macbooks? every other thread youre dragging them for some reason?
ot: the system is flawed much more than what you've addressed. the 1% is paid too much and earns too much money that they dont spend. if they spent their money more, it would go back into the economy and help create jobs and grow businesses. they're not spending it though so businesses are cutting hours and stuff to stay afloat. so dragging people because they go to starbucks and whole foods is flawed because at least they're spending money which helps the economy, helps farmers, helps college students that need jobs.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by bajaboy07
I do think the poor actually suffer the most compared to middle/higher income in society. The poor work gruesome long hours with little benifits and pay while the middle/upper class are living worry free lives about paying bills and taking lavish vacations. These people go to starbucks, shop at whole foods , go out to eat at panera bread, buying premium laptops/smartphones, etc. While the lower income worker watches this everyday you ask yourself do these people even care about the less furtunate? So the next time I witness a poor person stealing, mugging and mentally abuse a middle/higher income citizen for their irresponsible spending sprees I won't feel one drop of sympathy for them. Society should encourage this behavior till income inequality is solved so the poor can breathe again.
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what the actual f*Ck lmao
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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People talking like OP clearly have zero understanding on how the economy works.
A person earns the exact sum their work is worth. It doesn't matter if a factory worker works very hard physically when his job can be done by literally anyone else and requires no responsibility. He's one of many workers that can easily be replaced over time with machines or other workers.
His boss, however, has responsibilities and needs to lead the management in a way beneficial for the company. Without him, the department he's leading wouldn't be able to function normally.
The situation of a worker described in the first paragraph is similar with most manual jobs, but also with jobs requiring university degrees - once you stop being so irreplaceable, your work is worth less. The mass influx of workers with certain degrees is also correlated with lower level of teaching or tutoring, and less qualified workers' work is worth less.
So yes, the middle class and the upper class's wealth is justified and stealing it has absolutely no moral grounds.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Jan
People talking like OP clearly have zero understanding on how the economy works.
A person earns the exact sum their work is worth. It doesn't matter if a factory worker works very hard physically when his job can be done by literally anyone else and requires no responsibility. He's one of many workers that can easily be replaced over time with machines or other workers.
His boss, however, has responsibilities and needs to lead the management in a way beneficial for the company. Without him, the department he's leading wouldn't be able to function normally.
The situation of a worker described in the first paragraph is similar with most manual jobs, but also with jobs requiring university degrees - once you stop being so irreplaceable, your work is worth less. The mass influx of workers with certain degrees is also correlated with lower level of teaching or tutoring, and less qualified workers' work is worth less.
So yes, the middle class and the upper class's wealth is justified and stealing it has absolutely no moral grounds.
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Well this!
The system is what it is because is the only way society can work, if everything was equal for everyone it would be huge mess, it will be chaos.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Jan
People talking like OP clearly have zero understanding on how the economy works.
A person earns the exact sum their work is worth. It doesn't matter if a factory worker works very hard physically when his job can be done by literally anyone else and requires no responsibility. He's one of many workers that can easily be replaced over time with machines or other workers.
His boss, however, has responsibilities and needs to lead the management in a way beneficial for the company. Without him, the department he's leading wouldn't be able to function normally.
The situation of a worker described in the first paragraph is similar with most manual jobs, but also with jobs requiring university degrees - once you stop being so irreplaceable, your work is worth less. The mass influx of workers with certain degrees is also correlated with lower level of teaching or tutoring, and less qualified workers' work is worth less.
So yes, the middle class and the upper class's wealth is justified and stealing it has absolutely no moral grounds.
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in some cases yes
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Girl you need a therapist 
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I understand privilege but no one owes anything to anyone if you're living with that mentality you're gonna have a really horrible life. Do what you can with what you have. Always give your best.
Rich people don't owe you anything and rich people don't owe anything to poor people in Africa, is not their responsability to help them
I agree we, as human race, need to stick together and that is something not much do but if someone is rich you can't at mad at them for not doing some charity. and also, crime is never good it doesn't matter if it's some kind of Robin Hood situation, that's still crime.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by fememeist
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In which cases they don't, then?
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Jan
In which cases they don't, then?
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have you heard of idk slavery of immigrants in countries like Africa? Exploitation of children? They don't pay them to grow or anything they just give them food (if they do), they live in horrible places. Girl, do some research some people are stuck in poverty holes they will never be able to escape.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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The socialist/communist logic
Thank goodness country after country have proven these political systems not to work, and capitalism can reign supreme 
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As in Japan and Switzerland there should be a maximum wage in every country. I think in Switzerland it's 12 times the minimum wage, the idea being that the highest paid employee should not make more in a month than what the lowest paid makes in a year.
And they're right, they shouldn't.
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OP is a Socialist and he doesn't even know it.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by g.m.
As in Japan and Switzerland there should be a maximum wage in every country. I think in Switzerland it's 12 times the minimum wage, the idea being that the highest paid employee should not make more in a month than what the lowest paid makes in a year.
And they're right, they shouldn't.
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 That's outrageous. The government should never have so much power as to tell people how much they can or cannot have! Where do people develop these immoral opinions...?!
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Income inequality? Are you a communist? 
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Minimum wage should at least be sustainable enough to survive on. That's one change that I think could help benefit people. I see houses in the dirtiest part of the city for $1500. Makes no damn sense.
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Honey, real life is not like Sim City 
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